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Oh over the cookie issues this is Dave Arnold, your host of cooking you just coming to you live every tuesday from whenever to whenever I'm here in the Lower East Side Booker did not want to deal with the with the intro today. So he's literally a because he's on vacation. He's not in school. He's like, I'm taking the train. I'll be back when I'm back and he left.

Today is your birthday. How old are you?

50 years closer to the box. No,

listen. Yeah.

By the way. This is the first time any of you is hearing this. We also have we got Matt in his Rhode Island hidey hole we got Anastasia on the beautiful Long Island Sound and we got John's back in the in the great city of New York in his Murray Hill and Scotsman right? That's right. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So John has what would have been like a I've never actually seen his apartment. So I'm making this all up. But like, I think it's nice in that he has some sort of like outdoor roof access, except for the majority of time that he was there during the COVID they were doing asbestos abatement. So he was like, sealed into a loud bubble of, of asbestos. Is that true?

Well, I wasn't sealed in a bubble with asbestos. Protecting really miserable. I had no natural light coming in for a lot of the early days, early months of COVID It was really depressing.

He's like sweet, I have like my own like almost like little outdoor space and on like, way up, I can see everything and then all of a sudden, oh, we were plastering over your windows and for any of you that had never lived in New York, one of The joys of New York is the hammer drilling that like makes it through every corner of every building here, right? Yep. It's horrible. The Hammer

feels like it's in your head in your mouth, you know? Yeah,

yeah. Yeah. You know what the miracle of hammer drilling is? Is that especially with like, New York City concrete style buildings? Is that like, let's say you are the hammer driller. No one in the building can figure out exactly where you are. Because it's loud everywhere. Yeah. travels through the whole buildings. Crazy. You know? Whatever. Yeah. 5050 years flooded. You do when?

Well, for you? Well, this weekend last night. Nice. So I sent Dave it's my birthday tonight. Yeah. Dave some champagne last night to drink on the show or to drink half of it last night and then half on the show, which was good. The message said, and apparently your 16 year old son received it? Yeah.

True to New York to New York. So a man like I'm I'm on like, you know, one of Yeah, how like now that like resume like people assume that you can zoom at any hour of the day or night. So I'm on an actual like meeting at like, like eight for my other son Booker. And DAX here's a ding dong goes over, dude. Just hands a bottle of bubbly to my 16 year old. He couldn't

do it. Like he could. Yeah. Well, now you know, now he knows. Yes.

Do we want to do we want to shout out the company so that all the 16 year olds?

Yeah, underage party? Yeah.

What do you think the limit is like? Well, they roll a keg in and just had to do 16. Anything.

Let's just see how well you guys remember. Home Alone. This is Dave Arnold the father and then you call them in order that way and they'll just like roll booze. And that's what Macaulay Culkin was like this is the father when he was like calling for his whatever his room service in home alone to when he was in the hotel at the Plaza. No memories.

So when do you do?

Well, so on Saturday night was when I went out with with Jen. We went to Kenya first time ever first time indoor eating the for the whole pandemic. And it was the

variance indoors.

I mean, it was it was good. It was great. They had split guards up between the tables. So it was like eating out. First of all, like I said on the show many times, quote unquote outdoor eating here in New York is not in fact, outdoors. People build like garages. And then you eat inside of this garage. And our greenhouse was split guards between you and the next person. So it's, it's, it's outdoor in name only. Right? So Jen was a little nervous. And there was we're next to a window, but we opened the window and so she felt better, but it's great. And I've never been in with all those pipes. So like for those of you who've never been to Keynes famous Steakhouse, known for its mutton, mutton chops, which I had gender, and I have the mutton chop, you know, in the Edo is very, very good. That's the way that mutton chop works. For those of you that like our like asking, first of all, it didn't taste super old. It was just not lamb anymore, right? So it wasn't like super young, right? But it didn't taste like it was like a five year old thing. It just tasted like kind of like a like a beefier lamb. But the fun thing about it is, it looks like someone handed the butcher like a whole sheep. And then they were just like, I don't know, and they put the sheep on a bandsaw. And we're like, eight, eight, and eight, because you have like the rib bone goes right through the center of it. And then you have the two chops to the side of the rib bone. And then you have the flap of meat all the way around to the belly and they just cooked the whole damn thing. So I mean, you know, maybe it started as laziness and turned into a thing Who knows? So you didn't like no, I love that. That's great. And then on the ceiling, they have all these clay pipes like you know, like like, like, Colonial Williamsburg style clay pipes. I'm talking about stuff.

Yes, I've been there. Oh,

did you like it? Yeah, I've

been there. Yeah, I used we used to go to the bar a lot.

Oh, yeah. I hear they have great cocktails. I didn't have a cocktail when I was there. You It's weird. I live two blocks from there for five years and I never went I guess we didn't have any money when I was Yeah. Yeah, but so like

so now that we have money now.

Especially what we'll get into it with the with the Amazon stuff. So like, so like, but for those who've never been like on the ceiling, he has all of these like, like Colonial Williamsburg pipes, like hanging from little hooks with numbers on them. So up until 1978 You could become a member and that you would have your pipe and you would smoke it and then at the front, they have like a bunch of these pipes. hips like with the names of the people underneath it. So of course like Douglas MacArthur the general of course, because he was like such a vein D bag, his pipe was all ornamented like you couldn't just have a plain pipe like everyone else, but like right to the right of MacArthur's pipe and up one in the display Rube Goldberg pipe Rube Goldberg's pipe. And so I'm sitting there like cracking wise like I always don't play Rube Goldberg has a plain pipe, what's up with that? And then the guy literally without missing a beat, the guy at the front was like, Yeah, but you should have seen the contraption we had to use to get it off of the ceiling. And I was like, boom, boom, boom, I love it. I love anyone. First of all, like, you don't even think of Rube Goldberg is a real guy. You know what I mean? Do you think of Rube Goldberg is a real guy?

You mean because the name sounds crazy? No, because

he's like a thing. It's like a Rube Goldberg, Rube Goldberg. This is a Rube Goldberg that it's not like, you know, Dr. Seuss, I think of as a real author, Rube Goldberg, and I'll think of as a real person, I definitely don't think of him eating mutton and smoking a pipe and pounding cocktails. You know what I mean? Definitely,

I failed to realize it was you know, it was named after some guy walking around building contraption. I believe

he was a cartoonist. I believe his stock and trade was a cartoonist. And he was maybe two levels above the Family Circus guy, which for anyone who remembers comics, Family Circus, it's just like, I don't even know why that thing existed. Okay,

so there then what else? I

went there. I mean, you know, whatever. That was Saturday, Sunday. Oh, well, my, my, my mother in law sent me a incredible cheese selection from Jasper hills and actually like I like it's literally called the baller cheese box. Get it? cheese ball ball box cheese baller box anyway, so it's like it's like a giant box of mostly Jasper Hill with other stuff like Cabot and it's like all semi eco packs are like wood shavings instead of plastic on the inside. And so we've had cheese for days I bake some bread. My wife just got me the Como I now have a como mio mill. So like, you know, Anastasia can hear about milling for the next you know, million years. I got some new wheat in this assay. You'll be glad to know some new soft wheat, some new corn who got you then corn? I bought the wheat and corn. My wife bought me the mill. I bought the wheat and corn. What are you doing? got pizza pen? I don't know DAX is cooking. I thought I was gonna cook. I was like, literally like, I was like, oh, right time to grind the flower. I'll make some stuff. And then Jen's like, by the way deck says dinner tonight and like I'm like happy but nervous a little too. Why?

Well, who cares? It's one day like, why not about

the food? It's like, I wonder what the kitchens gonna look like. It's like when Booker Booker Booker quote unquote. You know, when Booker bakes, it's like, you know, the kitchen. I think we have a large sink. I have a large sink people that fifth and like you

should hire somebody to clean the kitchen once for your birthday, after your son's birthday.

Yeah, all I'm saying is this. Like the rule that I like to have is that if I kneel down with my eyes level to the sink, I don't want to see dishes above that eyeline? You know what I'm saying? Like, that's the that's the goal. Tomorrow, the Booker and DAX crew we're all we're gonna go out. We are.

Where are we? Where are we going?

Racine downtown,

but it's not named after racing, Wisconsin. All right. And this weekend? I'm going I'm going up to Connecticut so it's a funfilled birthday slash almost Easter time. Right? Is it were Wednesday Easter, is it this weekend or the next weekend or the weekend after that? I don't want to like Easter Watson

was one of these. I mean, it's very religious.

Well, only if you're religious. Otherwise, it's it's another good meal to have with the family.

And an excuse to dye eggs. Yeah, you know, some eggs. You know,

Maria, how are they?

They're great. You know, depending on the color, it seeps through a little bit, but it's good time. Do

you know what Anastasia Lopez introduced me to and they're still time people and they

did $1.99 at Michaels right now.

I saw that I bought a cup. Yeah, right. Yeah. Casca RONIS Nastasia Lopes, introduce me to the joys of smashing an eggshell on your friends heads. I think I do it too hard though. I'm sure you I'm gonna do it real hard. Are you gentlemen? Real hard. Listen to

this. I went to Michael's they're having the Easter sale which was 50% off right.

Everything was Michael Bennett. We were on Michaels crew here we like Yeah.

So everything Easter was 50% off so I got the Star Wars Easter eggs because my friends with babies are coming over to Easter egg hunt. So I got the Star Wars Easter eggs but those rang up regular price. And I said the lady. These are easter eggs they should be 50% off like everything Easter. And she said nope. And I said but it says easter eggs on here and she said They're not Easter. And then I said, Well, I better see them at Christmas and I left

a very sauciest story I enjoy.

I mean, what do you know? You know why? Because they were Disney. And like, yeah, Disney does not give discounts so yeah,

yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Yeah but like for like,

Thank God you played hardball with your local Michaels you got to show them was balls here literally

Easter though so I don't get it. I don't

get it either. Like and also she didn't give an excellent. She just said no like

yeah, first of all and like the Stasi is not wanting to let that kind of stuff drop. I mean like, oh my god people. I mean, like you don't even need to know Anastasia like it. Like, if you say something to her. She's gonna put the look on her face. And you know, you know that you're not getting out of this unscathed.

Oh, crap.

That's a real credit system. Grads filth. It's garbage. It should say except for Disney crap, right? Like if there's going to be an exclusion, it should say except for Disney crap. Yeah. Or I should say 50% off most Easter crap. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Did your mom make those first cast Coronas that we had the FCI. Or?

I don't remember, but we've done both. And I remember which ones.

Okay, so people if you've never had one of these, like, again, this is one of the joys of life that Anastasia has introduced me to. And she's had me make them too. We never made them together though. Did we? I don't think so. So your crack out the bottom of an egg shake out the egg. Use it for something else or throw it away. If you're a Jumoke let it dry. Fill it like not fill it but like put confetti in and then put crepe paper paper over the hole. And then smack it over, you know, with with.

The best thing is is to introduce somebody to them by like pretending it's an egg, you know, you put them in the carton and then or they come in a carton and then you pretend it's a real egg. And then you're like, Whoa, and then yeah,

yeah, bam. Yeah, real messy. Man. Man. I suggest doing it outside. Unless you have someone coming over to clean up your birthday slash house because Oh, hey, did you hear this last time? I was at Michaels. I didn't know this. But apparently glitter is canceled.

Yeah, it's said some racial slurs that.

No, apparently like I don't know, glitter like F's with I don't know. I don't know. Like I went I was at a store the other day. And I was like, Do you have glitter? Because I needed it for a project that we're working on here. I need to I need the like motion track liquids. And so like I needed something that was shiny, so I could see it moving around. I was like, Do you have glitter? And they looked at me like I had just like I had just like, destroyed the entire environment. They're like, No,

we don't say that anymore. Oh,

do you have glitter? No. Not anymore. And I was like, Oh, geez. Alright, okay. Goodbye. You know, and I ordered some online because I needed the clip. You know what I mean? I don't know but if you heard this if any of you heard this

Yeah, it's a big thing to use biodegradable glitter if you're using glitter nowadays, but

it doesn't really work in a snow globe does it? You don't want you're gonna want your biodegradable glitter degrading in your snowglobe but how would a what a what a terror show that would be like imagine like like if you imagine your little Santa figure like coming alive and be like ah now and like the goop and all this stuff like all over them or like the Empire State Building being coated in biodegradable glitter goop. I mean

this is your life.

Yeah, well, that's uh, you know, we'll do we'll do a different show a different show for that, by the way in my family and maybe one of you will use this at some point in your life. So you know, we're very kind of strict about when different things for sale come out in stores like holiday crap, the seasonal item and your local CVS and or Rite Aid, and or Walgreens and or whatever. Wherever you have your dear. You're shopping for, you know, garbage. And years and years ago, we still say it to this day, years and years ago, I walked in to a Rite Aid in early February and the Easter garbage was already out because I think it was an early Easter that year. And lady next to me goes Easter ain't even Valentine's over yet. And so we use that whenever anything comes out too early. It's not Valentine. First of all is not that same Valentine's Day or Valentine's Day. It's the time of valen valen times over yet. It ain't even Valentine's over yet. Like that's we use that all the time whenever something comes out a little, little bit too early. A little bit too early. Oh, you know what another thing we did for the Easter slash spring season this year, Anastasia remade again and I haven't made it in. I'm going to want to say 20 years panoramic easter eggs Love panoramic views you know like panoramic easter eggs really?

Wait What? What are you looking at if I'm looking at a panoramic easter egg a frickin bony

inside of the egg

like like Didn't you have to make panorama boxes and grade school? No. Oh dire dire

well they're called panoramic eggs you look basically it's like a sugar shell it's like a sugar shell in the shape of an egg with a window and royal icing piped around it to like put that where you put the two halves of the eggs to get that together and inside of it is like whatever like we have one for Easter treats made seven of them man just say I haven't made them in many years but like I said I was gonna make them years ago and I made the shells but we never got around to decorating them and then there was a leak and then they got ruined so I threw them away. So Jen was like we're going to do it this year. Make the windows in the front a little bit bigger than you'd think. So what you do is you get an egg you get an egg mold egg Oh egg bold I do that for any John Waters fans out there. Oh a bold or any of you guys John Waters people know oh my god you've never seen any of the John Waters movies.

Yeah, no. Jesus go on.

Alright, so it's a it's a mix of granulated sugar powdered sugar, egg white right. And then you make it into this course kind of Sandy stuff. Then you pack it into your into your egg mold has your unmolded onto like a piece of cardboard you let it dry for like me I'm gonna want the hard part you got to pack it in nice or you get little divots and pock marks you let it dry for like II like like 45 minutes. Our pick it up and you scoop out the center because the outsides firm and then you let it dry for a couple of hours. Oh, you should also before it gets too dry carve out the hole where the where the window is going to be and I would make that bigger than you possibly than you think because it gets real dark inside of the egg. And then you know do whatever you want. Jen decided this year that we weren't going to go edible on the inside of the egg so it's more like it's more like spagna moss for stuff instead of just straight icing on the inside. Let's cool. David around but

you know what I remembered? I threw your 40th birthday remember that?

Oh my god what a what a crap testicle show that was Oh my god. Oh my god. finest work. Oh, jeez. Louise like there was a we were we had an intern called whose name was Dave Thomas not dave thomas the dead Wendy's hamburger guy I don't remember. You remember this so like there was this picture so Dave changes there and nails and like a bunch of bunch of people right Jeremy Tom check a bunch of like chefs were there. And you were like, Dave getting the picture and he's like, I'm Dave and he jumps in we're like all right. Remember that was amazing. Yes. I enter pictures great.

I cleaned up fabulous is vomit at the end of the night that was real bad.

It was it was a rough It was a rough night it was a rough night Rough night

Did anyone have the heart to tell Dave The enter and the wasn't the intended day?

I think it was all right I think it was it was

yeah yeah God Yeah, we

were doing that we're doing skulls we were doing schools that night. Oh my god. The best picture from that night is one like three quarters of the way in we were we were still in like all like we're all wearing like suits and like but like the all of our ties are basically down it's very it's very Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah Good Times great oldies, contents great oldies.

It's too bad. That's Oh, hello. It's too bad. Allow. These birds are looking at me from outside. It's really weird.

Well, are they birds? Are they seagulls,

bird sparrows?

Okay, that's fine. If a seagull is staring at you in the face. He gotta you gotta go to go go lighthouse on him. If any of you have seen the movie, the lighthouse. There is a scene with a with a one eyed seagull. And let me just say it does not end well.

I was saying it's too bad. We can't do a blowout party for your 50th this year.

I know a lot of things are too bad. But you know, maybe we can celebrate later in LA

this year. Like do do one of our crappy la parties

or sub parties. If anyone has interest in in attending a sub party

or find the sub party Yeah, yes. Yeah. We are ready to throw that So

listen, Anastasia I need you to before we get off this since I know you're on the you're on your internet machine anyway. We need to buy that domain sub party if it doesn't already exists, because we need to be we need to have trademarked the sub party thing that

I really I want Jamie Foxx to throw our sub party that wouldn't be great.

Well, that's quite an ask you have their Anastasia. Yeah, I mean, like, I don't know why he would do that. I don't know. He must ask. He's obsessed with Jamie Foxx throwing a fancy party for not very much money back when he was poor. Why would he do that now that he's like, super rich?

I don't know. I mean, I also heard he's playing somebody really awesome in a movie. Oh, Mike Tyson. No, nevermind.

Wow, okay, we know I feel about Mike Tyson. I watched well, when they when they when they introduced the latest round of like novelty domain endings. I think dot party was one of them. So you guys could get subbed

out party? Oh, my God, that'd be so embarrassing.

Oh, my God.

I had someone write in, by the way, as an actual question. Somebody wrote in on Twitter, I'll answer it here. They were grinding their own stuff. So ear muffs for a second missed Asya. And they had a bad result when they were doing polenta. And I think one of the main things people don't understand with flour in general is damaged starch and the effect of fines and certain recipes. So for something like polenta, you don't want a lot of fines or corn flour or damaged starch. And so if you're having problems when you're grinding, you know, grinding your stuff with corn. That's probably it.

Yeah, the domain does not we should buy it.

Buy it. Do it now. Before somebody let us hear our voice does it? Yeah, we're now racing. 12 listeners. Yeah. Okay, Anastasia, hurry up. I'm gonna be talking about carbonation and grinding flour for the next three minutes. Yeah, there's something to do right. Now. Here's the theory though. Here's the theory. Remember, we were doing the COVID at the end osmek. COVID. Megilla. Right. It struck me. You have people lose their sense of taste and smell with the COVID. So it struck me that I got takeout, like five months ago from a restaurant. And it was terrible. Terrible, had no flavor.

Oh my god, Dave. It's $700 for subbed out party. What? Yeah, I think because it's just an awesome name. It's a premium domain. It says

no, I'm, yeah, I'm, well, we're not premium people. So no one's pays a premium for a sub party. That's the whole idea.

Yeah,

maybe Jamie Foxx will pick.

I can I yeah, I guess. You know, when he does host that party. Everyone's going to eat their words.

Sargon says it's 500 on Google domains.

Oh, no, listen, listen, I will happily eat my eyes me to what do you want?

No, no, no, no, you're not actually going to use it. We're not actually going to use it. Listen, listen, listen. When I when I eat my words, am I allowed some form of sauce?

No, no,

let me ask you this. I have the words come out of my mouth and like sat in a cup and dehydrated and gotten that dehydrated. Spit smell when I eat them? Are they

fresh words? No. No, the former.

Okay, I'm gonna say this only once. And if any of you are eating put on earmuffs right now. Oh, God.

Don't Don't Don't wait. It's gonna be gross, isn't it?

The worst smelling thing I've ever smelled is not the SIR strumming. It was in college when someone said they would drink a cup of spit. No cup went around. And then everyone spat in it and when it came around to me, I smelled. It was the worst smell.

When you pledging a fraternity or what?

No, no, it was. It was for money. It was for money. And we didn't let him do it. We did not let him do it. I smelled it. I was like, You're not doing this. This is not half so he didn't do it. No, he didn't do it.

It's probably good would have been would have been patient zero for some other pandemic.

I used to like, you know, like, I never did it for like, you know, kudos I did stuff for money. Like I drank a gallon of salsa for like, I think five bucks.

That's not bad. And you also did milk or something right? And then gallons

a lot. No, I never did the milk challenge. I've seen people do the milk challenge. I've never seen someone I've seen people successfully get a gallon of milk down but not hold it down. That's when

you got effed by the guy right?

No, no that one he he drank the this guy I knew we had stolen from the dining hall a gallon of cooking wine Petri brava this debris of stone. And you know, and so like this guy said he could drink this whole gallon of wine in an hour. And we're like, we can't because that'll that's enough alcohol to kill you. And you're lightweight anyway. So I was like, I'll take that bet because you know, you'll be dead. I won't have to pay you anyway. Right? And he did it but he had secretly replaced the wine with water beforehand for a different prank he was planning on doing so he was punished. You know what I mean? Like because that's welshing you know what I mean? Yeah, like that's not cool. Yes. Aha, so back to what I was saying. So during the pandemic, we get this relatively new restaurant food abysmal, no flavor at all, like completely like under flavored. Here's my theory. Maybe the chef was experiencing post COVID Like, like, taste problems and could not judge the flavor of what they were putting out. You think that's possible? I don't know. If anyone has had an experience where they think their chef has no sense of taste anymore, you know, or you know if any of you want to follow up on the on the show we did,

it's probably a question. No,

no, I mean, I'm saying for people out there, how many restaurants can Harold eat? And I'm saying like, do you think this has happened to you?

And so everybody knows. I posted the Herald video that everyone loves today. Yeah, well, the one where the meat falls and then results. Oh, it's classic.

So, so fabulous, which is Fabian von hausky. And Jeremiah Stone, who has a dog named, by the way, for Japanese food names like that we have to in our friends and family zone, we have two dogs named after case,

Johnny, what is yours called?

Koji?

cocina. And, and Jeremiah stones dog is kombu. But Jeremiah has dog looks like one of these, like, you know how like, certain animals like like Whippets and whatnot, have like some sort of genetic problem where they can't put fat on. So like, they're always shaking, because like they're cold because they have no fat. Don't talk about no. Yeah. So well, so he has something that looks like almost like, like a pit mix. But with that shaking issue, is there a saying

here? Is it a mud?

I have no idea. I have no idea. But anyway, it's named kombu. And it's always shaking. But it's like all it's like only muscles and bones. Did you know that there's a Belgian breed of pig called the I'm going to mispronounce it for you because that's what I do to other French words pi train or something like this. And be something like this. Believe it's Belgian. And it's a double muscled pig with very low fat and they quite often just drop dead they just boom and drop over dead because like it's just too much stress on their system to have all of that muscle and like not enough fat Yeah, just like what they're there once you walk up you're like Boo pig and it's like over down Yeah, so and a lot a lot of farm animals with the double muscle trait super lean have that sudden death kind of a problem. Yeah, yeah, just a little FYI for all you guys you're planning on

raising them. I talked to the teepee people they said it's fine. So Anastasia Lopez, David dB.

Yeah, talk about it talking about talking about it. Stasi Lopez as many of us have. I can't I can't she can't I can't have had TP dreams. So go ahead. So I got

a tip I ordered a TP and from a place that is a an authentic place. And the polls arrived on Friday or whatever. And, and they're big. They're like 18 feet probably. And TV size

TVs. It's not like it's not like an Ikea of freaking teeth and

like huge lawn like huge with no house on it. Well, it's a tiny little tiny high house but huge lawn. And the neighbors are lucky because there's no house on it. So they have a view also. Anyway, Poles arrive and the neighbor was like, what should we going to do with those poles? And I said it's for a teepee. And then he was like other really big if you need them cut down I know a guy little hit Yeah.

For those for those who wait before it before you're done rose you're not in a stasis place is roughly the size you know when you drive up to Home Depot, and they have those prefab like sheds out front like that. sighs Go ahead. The place I'm in that place. Yeah, about your actual apartment is like the size of one of those two prefabs still

hated this place because it's like cute place. So it's cute. Yeah, but they hate it because it blocks it blocks a portion of their view, whatever. It was there before they

were Is it new construction?

It was like Yeah, yeah. That's like there's like the person who moves in over a bar. And it's like,

this bar is loud. Yeah. And

also I'm really quiet. I like don't do anything like what am I gonna do with myself? Anyway, so I called Dave and I'm like, Oh my god. This is what they said. What am I gonna do? You know, and Dave, what did you

I can't I can't say I just said that like, so you know, the Stasi and her dad had been doing their genetics research and they you know came back with a forget what what what was

my what was my dad is 40% Native American.

So right but it wasn't a specific group or catchy about Yeah, yeah. And yeah so like yeah, I was like sassy you could totally just make them feel terrible you could totally just, you know

Yeah, it's we just got

the results back and we're celebrating you know confirming the heritage that we always said that we have are celebrating and then the person can be like you topi but you do you really do. I

don't I don't want to go there. Like I want

to make them squirm. You want to make them squirm like,

send me a ton of texts and not be upfront. You know about this TP and it's

first of all, most people if you're dealing with Anastasia or really anyone don't go past Yeah, go full full of gumbo. Passive Careful, careful. Yeah.

Is the TP actually like, is it going to really obstruct Oh, yeah, but I but how far away is there? I mean, like, you know,

it's like, very like, I mean,

have you seen a real? Right?

That's what I'm, that's what I'm trying to get.

Before before we get into this, like, how big is the how big is the bottom spread going to be? The diameter? Yeah. So it's not insubstantial. I know. I know. It's a 12 foot diameter. 18 foot high. McGill

relative. It's all relative. Oh, yeah. Well, this

is going to be a little shorter than 18 feet anyways, because they're all going to be at an angle. Right? Yes.

Yes, it is. I said that.

Very, John, you're very what's it called very soothing presence in these kinds of things. I'm getting this

is this is and also setting this thing up next year house gonna make it even smaller and

be far away, like underneath

where the real problem is that is that she can't have it blowing into the sound. That's yeah. Well,

so I told him I called the TV company told them about the winds. And they said, no problem. This is what they're paid for. Yeah.

I told you that wasn't gonna be a problem, because they're out on the plains where the winds are a billion miles.

Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean, but dreading dread No,

you're not you're you're, you're secretly loving it.

People and John, you know, are super waspy. So they'd say things in very passive ways, very passive. And

you could threaten to decorate the outside of the tent is decorated.

Oh.

Like that it's a it's a scene of like a Native American killing a buffalo. So

it's very strong, it's very strong. So I bet you can't wait to make it first fire in it, you got to figure out how to work the fire flap.

I read the books you gave me. So it's creating that you have to create a vacuum. Also, I got the upstairs fireplace to work things to you.

Yeah, but for those of you that don't use your fireplaces, and you haven't like if you live in a place where the fireplace hasn't been used for a long time, it is a good idea to get it checked first. And I would get it checked in the summertime. Because that's when chimney sweeps don't have a lot of business. Other than like if you call during burning time, it's very hard to get a chimney sweep to come out and check your check your your stuff, but I think the the main problem that a lot of people have with bad drawers is they don't put something real quick burning to get some heat into the flue. Soon as the flue gets hot it will start to draw you know, anyways,

when I had my fireplace in my because the fireplace upstairs in the bedroom, the the guy came up and he was like, Oh, why do you need it to work? It's not like you're gonna be looking at the fire in here anyway, right?

Oh, you're like get out suck it buddy. Fix my fireplace. I hate it when people tell me what I should or shouldn't be. Right. You know what I mean? Yeah, one of the

things is when someone's like, if you're carrying like a lot of boxes of liquor, like there's always having at the FCA. What did somebody say? Like

oh yeah, oh my god. Dude who tunes who? Oh, here's some more things we hate people. John got another angry freaking email this morning. From someone all bent like a frickin pretzel about us not having freakin cereals for sale, buddy die. You know what I'm saying? Like why are you giving John crap about something he already feels bad about as though we're organizing our business going sinking like the freakin Titanic just so that you can't get your sizzle. Like, who thinks that that's a thing? You know, saying the

exact thing he said John, it was real douchey

Cooper's snarky hold up. me pull it up. He's for just for everyone's record, too. He's been emailing me since December 16.

Yeah, yeah. Alright, because that was

our month has gone by still no serious all we're now in what the fourth month of unavailability any update as per your previous emails. Can you please define quote unquote soon. Thanks.

Wow.

It's not like we're doing this because we like it. You know?

Yeah. Yeah. You know what stars? Why don't we shut down our whole source of revenue for a quarter of the year just to shaft this one person, right?

started this business just to get this guy know,

people knew like the angry conversations between, you know, internally like externally with, like all you know so it's not healthy.

Is there a sizzle page on Amazon that says it's like unavailable

they wiped it there are like okay,

you could fill that out with whatever you want to say no.

There's pages for the knockoffs though so there's that. That's good. All right, hold up. So John, you said you had some information on crab being the new poke a or no?

Well, no, you said you're the one who wanted to talk about it. I want why I

wanted people to write in and tell me why they think the crab restaurants are a thing now. And someone gave me someone sent me on Twitter, like a really cool word, which I'll forget, but it's something like Carson array Carson realization, I can't pronounce it without I have to see it in front of me. But it's like the CO evolution of the parallel evolution of crab like features in different Decapod crustacean lines. Cool word koolart. I wish I could remember exactly how to pronounce it without looking at it. Whereas I have other words where I know how to pronounce them, but couldn't spell them if you asked me to, you know, I'm saying weird.

Where the meaning of this word is, like, independently a bunch of organisms trend towards these same trades is that they do.

Right? But they're all crabs. Yeah, look at that. It's like, like cars like crab, Carson, Carson isation. cart. You look it up. And you tell me, you look it up. You tell me. Also, when you guys if you guys are going to be getting in because it's bug season coming up soon, if you are getting large amounts of grains and flowers and and you have a vacuum machine, it is a very good application for a vacuum because a good tight vacuum seal will kill anything that's alive, not bacteria, but we'll kill bugs and whatnot. So that down your stuff as soon as you get it. I have 45 pounds of soft red wheat that just showed up. And about 15 pounds of bloody butcher corn that I'm going to be messing around with. And so as soon as we get off the phone actually not as soon as we get off the phone because this dasya has me doing another phone call since we got off the phone. But right after that I'm going to be spending my birthday vacuuming down sack after sack after sack of wheat. So good tip. Yeah,

we need to end it right at one today. So

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by the way, by the way before we started the radio show today someone in the background had someone lifting something so heavily that I could hear the hernia. Who was it

not me?

Oh one of you in the background right before the been Oh yeah,

it was that was that was on my end and it was oh man I hope that guy's okay. So actually like the miracle thing happened which was that they were doing construction right next to me and then it stopped just in time for the show and has stopped this entire time like they must have taken their lunch break although I hadn't put it together that the very last thing I heard from them was like so like maybe someone is actually very injured next door I probably shouldn't be looking at someone's

intestine has popped through their abdominal wall. Yeah, it's like flapping around like a tapeworm right now.

And I was just like, Oh, my good luck. They stopped

because they're in the hospital. Geez, Louise. All right. From Sargon via email. Hey, Anastasia just came to UNICEF's. Yeah, I heard Dave's chamber vacuum hijacks after baking bread. I've been looking at a chamber vac upgrade to my current setup, which is a food master. You know, any recommendations for relatively small home space. So the one that I use is a mini pack. But I have to say I only really have experience with mini packs and with essentially, I've experienced with Birkholz mini packs and MultiMax but they're all like kind of the expensive professional ones. And they're real pricey. I like the mini vac ones for many pack ones for size to benefit ratio. So like you know, especially they're smaller oil ones I think are very good size for a home kitchen. and they have a nice dome top so you can get pretty big stuff in for their size but I don't have a lot of experience with anything kind of less expensive than that. But you know, and I haven't bought one in many many years but it always used to be you know mini pack was a little bit of the underdog compared to multi vac and so they will give you better customer service whereas the multivac people didn't care whether or not you bought their stuff or not that real kind of German kind of attitude about it. So you know, I always pushed for many pack whenever whenever I could. I heard they were releasing a new unit. But I haven't seen it yet. So I can't say anything about crafted grog wrote in via Instagram. Hey, Dave just started liquid intelligence and I'm enjoying at least that's back in stock at least I'm personally selling something right Anastasia. You know, I think it's so stuck. Like I guess so. So mean so mean on my birthday yet? Hey, they just started licking intelligence and enjoying it. So not like the stars while you enjoyed it if it keeps hot things hot and cold things cold. Yeah,

I left it at someone's house, though.

So Jesus, did I describe it to you? Probably. Yeah. You're searching jag weed.

Nurse. I'm that guy. So bring something over for someone can

sell that for a lot of money.

Yeah, yeah. By the way, if you go on urban dictionary and look up Jag, we'd the person who defined jag we'd misspelled douche, what a Jag week. So how long would want to have to boil say a standard at brew spirit, like an aged rum or even liquor to completely remove the alcohol. Also, with some of the flavor of the rummer Liquor be removed to? Thanks, yes, much of the flavor will be removed, you're going to be removing most of the aromatic compounds. Because that's why they're aromatic you bought you boil them off, right. And so, you know, if you boil for a long time, you know, that's, that's, that's going to happen. Also, it depends on what you mean by completely right. So, you know, when you're doing testing for alcohol levels, what they tend to do is they take a sample, they boil it down to a third of its volume, and then they re dilute it back up to full volume to test when they're doing tests of, for instance, alcohol versus sugar and things like that. So mean, it's quite a lot, and you're still never gonna get down to zero, because there's always kind of a differential partial pressure. So it's not like, it's not like you're boiling something and only the alcohol comes off, and then only the water, so you never get down to 000000. But nothing is 000 Like, you know, your yeast everywhere making alcohol at all times. For practical purposes, I would probably say that if you reduce by, you know, half, you're gonna get rid of most of it. And then like I say, for testing purposes, they reduced to 1/3. Typically, that answer that question. Yes, go on. Nikki J 9393. Here, I graduated from college. When people write 93. That's the usually the year of their when they write a year, that's the year of their birth typically. Right? That

That sounds about right with our listener, person. demographic.

I mean that but I mean, in general, that's how people choose their names, or no,

yeah. Unless at a certain age, you might do like high school graduation year or something if you're quite young, and he's like when it's ahead of you.

What is the sixth and Nikki six mean?

That's his last name.

In real life, yeah,

he took his like, step two, I can't remember. But yes, it's a real last name.

I looked up this morning, a blues musician, check out this person's name. Ready for it. Houston. Stackhouse. How awesome is that name? Thanks. Nikki J 93. Hate a fan of the podcast. So sorry about existing conditions. was my favorite bar in the city? Well, you know, maybe some pattern who knows? I don't know. I don't know. Or as my grandma's parrot which may or may not still be alive. Gunther not going to answer. You would say he used to say to things that he would mumble, right. I don't want to and I don't know. I don't know. I don't want to I don't want to

wait. No, that's not true. That's not true.

Well talk to get him to curse. What which one? Oh, what? Well, so he would squawk right. So like he would like Gunther so you we were driving from like LAX to Mount St. Helens in like a very underpowered motorhome. This has got to be 1984 right at 384. Something like this. And we got two dogs, a chat a vicious Chow. Taffy. The other guy said I think I said this before the only animal whose death I celebrated with a drink when this dog died. I went out for cocktails celebrated, you know spent more money than I had at the time in college because this was the meanest dog that I've ever encountered in my life. In fact, Like my stepfather the shrink has, you know, said that like, it's the only animal model for schizophrenia he's ever seen. Wow. So like, this dog was me. So mean in fact, and I make it a habit to not be mean to animals, right? Whenever grandpa would have taffy, it was a child rights picture big child, when grandpa would have Taffy on a leash. When grandpa would look away, I would make a face of taffy. Taffy would bark grandpa would yank the chain I was like. And the one of the reasons I hated this dog so much was because we're in the motorhome. And for those of you that never been in an 80s Vintage kind of motorhome. Like above the driver there's like a little like attic space. Right? And that was the bed where I slept, right? And because grandma and grandpa they would pick up the table in the back that had the map of the America on it and then they would put the table down and that become their bed. You guys familiar? You know the stuff I'm talking about? Yeah, yeah. So anyway, middle of the night, and this is why I think by the way, I can hold myself on a 14 hour plane flight like to this day like I can get on a 14 hour plane flight and I do not need to use the restroom if I don't want to right. And it's because this dog would not let me pee at night. I would try to swing my leg over to get down or and I didn't want to wait grandma and grandpa up to like, you know, even though they were only like 10 feet from me because they're in the back of the motorhome. And so to this day I hold the grudge, I can hold a grudge on not not being allowed to pee. But again, Taffy maybe taught me a valuable, valuable lesson. But that's not the story. So Gunther. So Gunther used to have this thing where if you left him alone, he would start saying Love you. Love you. Love you, honey, honey, honey, and then if you didn't answer it, we'll just go so like we're going up, like the you know, Big Sur area like that Pacific Coast Highway like you know, it's like a cliff you fall off of it. We're in a motorhome. Grandpa's only doing like one mile an hour or so cars are going in that tiny Lane around us. You know what I mean? Nightmare, super underpowered dodge nightmare. Anyway, so we're going around and we start hitting these bumps, right and Grandpa can't do anything. He can't pull off nothing because we're on the Pacific Coast Highway. And all of a sudden, Gunther who during the day is in my bed up above the, you know, the driver, the cage goes, boom, falls off of this thing hits the ground, got there starts running and flapping up and down the motorhome with the two dogs going. Like screaming, we're on the Pacific Coast Highway. And my grandma also then starts going like, But grandma basically sounded like the parents. So if you close your eyes, you didn't know whether you were hearing my grandma or whether you were hearing the parents. And in fact, my stepfather once thought that he was catching grandma and grandpa doing it. And it was the parent. It was the parent screaming love you in the morning. And Gerard my stepfather was like, hey, hey, pretty good. Folks still going this way. When I'm their age, you don't go for it. Anyway, it turns out it was the parent, but I don't want to. So the other thing is the parent would constantly mumble. Now I don't want to I don't want to I don't Well, I don't know. Because anyway, so like like whenever I mumble like that I do the parrot mumble or like, you know, know, your I don't know, I don't know, even say I don't know, I don't want to but my grandma didn't want the pair to say anything negative. Which, you know, I again, the parent hated me. So like I couldn't teach it anything because I tried to teach at curses constantly. Because of course I was a teenage boy. And but like she would always say that instead of saying I don't want to because he would always torture my grandpa make him do stuff he didn't want to do and say that he didn't mind. Richard doesn't mind she would say that all the time. Like grandpa would be sitting there reading some garbage pulp novel because that's the only thing he actually liked doing. And someone else would be like lifting something. And she'd be like, Richard lift that for you. Richard doesn't mind. He's like, it's because grandma hated reading. Grandma hated reading and learning. This is your Moshe? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So anyway, so like, and so like, and then I guess grandpa would mumble. And then so then the parent learned I don't want to but grandma wouldn't accept that the parent was saying that it didn't want to. So she would say, old Dean Witter. Old Dean Witter, and we're like what who? The hell's Dean Witter, and she was trying to retrain the bird into saying this nonsense old Dean Witter. When I've still to this day, I've no idea what old Dean Witter is or why they named it Gunther instead of calling it Gunther which will be the actual German name and who, who ever calls any it's not Gable Williams. A there they look into San Bernardino. No, they're that kind of Yeah. They moved from San Jose. Alright,

I think we're mid question but you have like five

Nikki J 93 has a question What is the best binding agent for breading slash frying Some recipes call for egg, milk, buttermilk, or some combination thereof. I was curious on your view for the best crunchy crust on some breaded and fried stuff. Chicken, tofu, etc. Thanks, Nikki. Jay, this is an incredibly complicated question and one in fact that I'm working on right now. And there is no one best combination, you have to think about what you are trying to do when you say breading, right? Do you mean that you wish to have actual breadcrumbs? Think about, you need to come back to me on the next show. And you need to tell me Give me a target. Right. So there's schnitzel style crust, which is like made typically with European or what we call ABC American breadcrumbs, there's more tonkatsu style, which is breaded. There's reasons to use cracker meal, although it's very not very used in in regular kind of home cooking. And you're going to, you're going to be thinking about what you want the texture of the coating to be. And then also like what the parameters are, are you going to do a pre dust, I typically do a pre dust in straight flour, then into a buttermilk, egg, buttermilk, egg, baking soda, baking powder, and the soda is there, but it'll brown rapidly. So if you're doing big things, you want to like scale back the soda to keep it acidic, and then back into flour. It's but I want like crispy and crispy if you want something that's crispy on the outside, but more temporal like you wouldn't read bread afterwards, you'd use a heavier pre dust and then a batter. See like, it's very complicated. And I'm working on it right now for the book. So come back with kind of more exactly what you want. And we can tailor the answer to more what you need. Is that make sense?

Yes. Okay. Instead of going to a question, let's leave it with something happy for birthday reasons.

Okay, you got something happy?

What's one of our favorite stories or something we haven't told. Come on think think think think think think think think think think think think think? What's one of the best birthdays you've ever had? And why

40th birthday was fun. Yeah. You were there. Jen was there we had the whole cruise at the FCI. That was a good birthday party. Yeah, that was a good birthday party. Jen's 40th birthday party was also a great birthday party. That was a Del Posto back in the day. Mark made his 8 billion layer lasagna which doesn't actually have layers, right.

So there's a lot of Mark fallacies that we've

there's is like, like, you know, it's like it's like, you know, this is the way mark Ladner counts 1314? Yeah, as many layers there was a thin pasture many layered lasagna, but 100 sounds better? I don't know. But oh, I'll tell you this. I'll give you this. Okay. So my dad for my 50th birthday. sent me the pocket watch and of course because my family is like engineers, right? So my dad's an engineer and my grandpa was an engineer. Both doubly my grandpa was the was the first graduate of Penn State's radio engineers department and went directly to Westinghouse to design radars for World War Two. Anyway, so because of that, of course, he has a spare he gave me My great grandpa Clarence, Clarence his pocket watch. And and some time back in like the 40s. When my grandpa got it, he bought a spare identical unit in cases whenever broke so that he could swap out the parts, classic Arnold engineering family kind of thinking. So he sends me this pocket watch, which is a railroad style Hamilton railroad style pocket watch from 1916. So right in between when my Great Uncle Luke was born, and when my grandpa was born, and great grandpa Clarence, I never met him. He died before I was born. But he was a Lutheran minister in in Pennsylvania, and in Baltimore, all over Pennsylvania, New York, Baltimore, over in college, State College over by, you know, Penn State. And so railroad watches are interesting, because you can't set them without opening them up, because they were afraid on the railroad that you might accidentally set it while you were winding it and then get the time wrong, and then you'd have all kinds of problems. So he would take this watch it before every sermon and he would put it down on the pulpit in front of them to remind himself that in his words, you don't save anyone after the first 15 minutes. By and that's it. That's it, you only have 15 minutes and people to now imagine that now. It's probably 15 seconds. Yes. So it's like, you know, in you know, in he graduated seminary, probably in the 20s. Or like, you know, maybe the teens or 20s So actually the teens you graduated in the in the teens and so yeah back then you had a full 15 minutes to save people. So now if you want to get anything done if you want to save people get your information across. Just bear that in mind put the watch down and that's it. Yeah.

Happy birthday. Thank you. Happy Birthday

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