Hello, welcome to cooking videos at Rockefeller Center in the middle of Manhattan, New York City coming to you from the height of the Omicron Corona bump. Got John in the studio. How you doing? Doing great, thanks. Yeah, yeah, we got Anastasia the hammer Lopez in her hidey hole up there in on the on the sound. It's a Long Island Sound people want to pretend that it's the ocean but it's not so more sheltered, which is nice. How are you doing? I'm okay. Yeah. Strong, strong. Like, you know, like, I'm not I'm not dead. But on the other hand, I could be better. I could be better.

I got I got sick again yesterday, and I don't know what it is. And it's really strange.

Well, we know you're not rocking the cron. There's no way you could get

I don't know, because it's like night sweats and fever. So I'm like, what is it?

First of all night sweats should be a BG song. I'm imagining. Actually, what it is, is it's like it's exactly in between it came out in the 90s right in between the Bee Gees and the Scissor Sisters was night sweats. I can hear in my head. We'll write it. We'll get someone to record night sweats for us. I freaking love the Scissor Sisters. Does anyone else like the Scissor Sisters? No, you don't?

I can't think of any songs off the top of my head.

I haven't said that. You're with us today. Hassan What are your feelings on the Scissor Sisters?

I don't think I have any.

No. What are your feelings on the BGS? What are your feelings on like high voice singing stuff?

Oh, I love the Bee Gees they had a documentary on HBO. And it explained where he got the high pitch singing

from Yeah, where's it Where'd it come from?

Um, groups like the main ingredient or the soul groups at a time singing in a falsetto. He was imitating that and it kind of became their own thing.

main ingredients. Good stuff. I liked that stuff. You know what I don't appreciate? Oh, yeah, we also got Jackie molecules over here. So I didn't introduce them. But of course a sophomore in Jackie molecules in California. I feel that that what I appreciate is that style of falsetto, to me is so much more interesting. No offense. I can't even believe he's still alive. Frankie Valli, that kind of stuff. Just doesn't doesn't hit me the same way. You know what I mean? Just like not the same kind of McGillicutty

Yeah, yep.

Yeah. What do you guys think about the screen like like hi like not falsetto, but like screaming falsetto like, like Chris Cornell. Fantastic, right? Yeah. Yeah, come on. All right now. Okay, ready for it. Now this is not a cooking question. By the way. You should call in your your cooking related or what? Whatever question 917-410-1507 917-410-1507 And that's for the Patreon listeners who can listen to his live and if you'd like to listen to his live and call in, well then go to what is it WWW dot Patreon Ford slash cooking issues or patreon.com/cooking issues slash cooking you should go there and join up and for a very small monthly fee. We'll throw you some fun stuff. I have some fun stuff coming your way also, just like weird documents like there's a there's some weird PDFs on there and we're going to put more on that aren't available to other people. Go check it out. Go check it out. So back to this. So Robert Plant or Chris Cornell one man's voice has to be erased I'm not saying the quality of the music. I'm not saying oh yo Led Zeppelin so important I don't care about that all I'm saying is the voice erased What do you guys think?

I'm gonna go with Cornell which is crazy but oh my god my gut my gut my my gut tells me that it was such a it was more unique I think what okay, I know it's a weird answer but

is anyone going to come out and erase plant let Cornell stay let the voice say anyone? Hassan What are you on this way you like to me the sound got Chris Cornell sound and sound garden and the fact that you can go so low and so high and the growl and the scream I mean, come on. I love plant. But like plants got that one kind of plant thing going? I mean, like Chris Cornell, he's all over the matter. That's all I'm gonna say about that. I mean, Chris Cornell man. Not very many people better. Alright, no good. How the heck no, no, no,

I'm gonna weigh in on this.

Oh, night sweats. Night sweats. And I guess the reason system sisters came into my mind and then the Bee Gees is because a night moves their album. Right that's must be why it happened. Right boy but I can imagine it in the falsetto voice notes with but I'm picturing the BG is doing that doing the dance with those with those white pants there. What do you guys think about the pants that are super sticky around your thighs? But like loose on the bottom? No, that's not I would never want to wear that.

No. couldn't really make

it look good on them though. look good on it. What do you say sauce.

Love it. Love those pant. Love anything tight around that area.

tight around the side. That's that's the stasis memoir. tight around the thigh. This is not as though you like it on modern people are just on the old ones.

Only people with the right bodies.

So what about like, what about people who were that way in the 70s but now have the big old potbelly and the streaming hair on both sides with the giant bald patch up top.

You know how I feel about that day we got into a huge argument last week about it.

I thought you liked those guys, but you didn't like you don't like hot old guy you don't like ripped old man. The Stasi doesn't enjoy ripped old man. I don't enjoy old man Pierre all I thought you liked like a well, age old guy. What about that guy gun? He's He's good looking. But Pierce Brosnan. He's a good looking older dude. Oh, I do not find him attractive at all. And yet you find Paul McCartney attracted this makes no sense at all.

No, I don't. He's not ideal. But he's Paul McCartney, and the only old guy

and do I tell you what, from the day he from the day he like, you know, went through the change until the day he died. Paul Newman Hawkman. The singer and said, go ahead and say that. Alright, shall we do some cooking related stuff? Probably. Yeah. All right. First of all, we were supposed to have Michael and standing and masa from their new book on Japanese cocktails. But there's a little bit of a scheduling snafu. We're going to get him back when John we don't know yet. TBD. But probably in March pricing. So we're, we apologize, we deeply apologize for that. But save up all of your Japanese cocktail questions for that we had a bunch, right. But we can we can get some we can get some more questions in on that. So don't you know, don't save them. If you send the questions in now, John will, will will keep them and then and then bring them back up for later. But in case you didn't have any questions to think about this, about 10 years ago, maybe a little more now. There was a huge movement in the US. Basically. I don't know what the word just like, really, really, really loving the idea of Japanese cocktails without any knowledge of it at all. So it was all just about I don't know what's what's a good word for finding admiration my synonym creator in my head is, is is gone. But without knowledge. It's just they wanted to grab on to it, use aspects of it to kind of push themselves here in the States without any without really connecting to actual Japanese cocktail culture. Whereas masa is legit, a Japanese bartender who lives in the in the states now. So it's going to be kind of interesting. Of course, we've learned a lot as a country over the past 10 years. I remember when we went to Tokyo, Anastasia, and we went to the bars, and it was like, so 100% different to the way that they worked over here.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. And like, yeah, yeah.

And we were like, you know, we had literally been flown over there to, like, show our skills off and like our techniques, and we went into the bars, and we were just like, What are they doing? You know what I mean? And so it's like, what the hell, I'll never forget, I remember we went in and there is that bartender and she, she starts rinsing the ice off, and we're like, What the hell is going on? And then like, but the funny thing was, is that when we were going out, we wouldn't have any translators. We also couldn't ask, like we were ordering basically, basically by pointing at things, right. I mean, it was just kind of like, not like they would have answered as if we had asked them in Japanese either. I don't know. But anyway, so it should be fun. We get back on I think the book is doing quite well. So save up your save up your questions. Who else we got coming up soon. John, who's next week? Dave? Wonder Show speaking of cocktails. Yeah, we have the New Oxford with a compendium or is an encyclopedia company. That sounds more like a one bridge project right Compendium or I think it's companion companion. Companion Oxford Companion. So in other words, it could be about anything, right? But you read it while you're drinking. So it's the Oxford into spirits and cocktail companion to spirits. So like, may or may not have anything to do with cocktails and spirits. I've read it. It does actually has something to do with that. But it's a it's a weird title. Right companion? What do you guys think about that? What does that even mean? In this case? Like a dog is a companion to a person, right? Not a person. I wouldn't want to learn about people by talking to a dog. Maybe I would. Yeah,

I mean, I don't know. It's also the Oxford Companion to beer.

That's pretzels. The that's a book entirely about pretzels. And I have to say, you know, normally before I go because we don't have a guest right so we can talk about things for a while. I've been working a lot on pretzels. But before I go into a pretzel hole, which you know, my pretzel hole is deep and boring, right, you know, this deep and boring pretzel hole before I go into that. Anyone else have any interesting food experiences in the past? Make This is your time you could have thought about it before you showed up the show today. Nothing we made John you made nothing interesting.

You made some soup.

Soup What kind of soup

using Broto like Marco Kenora is Britta broth Rebecca sent me some a while

ago Rebecca the alcoholics the boondoggle boondoggle? Yeah now in Philadelphia no longer bro doing it up.

I will say that's a great product. Yeah, the broth Yeah, it's really really good.

So describe their broth versus the knockoff bone broth. And is there a difference between just is it just like they boil it longer? It's got more gelatin? What's the fundamental difference here?

Yeah, it's got more gelatin for sure.

You know what I do to my stocks? If I don't like the gelatin, and sheets of gelatin? That is correct, my friend. I add gelatin to them. Why not? Yeah. So like, it's a good tip for you. Here's a cookie related tip in the middle of John's story, if you have to use bouillon cubes, or any sort of other fake broth, right in gravies or in like if you're making like chili because I use stock and chili along with beer and other things or, and you know, you're not going to build up enough gelatin with the with the meat base, you have other stuff to put some gelatin that son of a gun. I have gelatin sheets, you know why used to shun? Or because they're so easy to add to things? Yeah, you just so come in cold water for a little bit of time. And they dissolve boom with no clumping, right? Whereas with powder, you got to worry is it going to dissolve? Right? Me Me, me, me, me, me, Nanny, Nanny nanny, right. So like the sheets are nice to have around. They're also super easy to dose because you dose it by the sheet. It takes more sheets. And you think actually that's the one that people are like, Oh, I'll add a sheet now it's like, it's always like six or eight sheets that you need to add. But it's incredibly convenient. And it's that's the way and I don't recommend buying anything above like silver gold. Don't bother with the platinum. It's a no, no, don't bother. Anyway, my point is a great way to add body to a broth if the body is just not there. Don't have so much that you get that. Because you know that noise means John, that's that feeling that sauce gets when it's over reduced. Yeah. Do you hate that? Yes. It's extra trouble. Yeah, yeah. All right. So continue soup made with Broto. So you use Broto as the base for the soup. Yeah. So fancy pants. How much more does that cost? Then? Garbage broth? I know you didn't buy it. But how much more does it cost?

Like think if you get a six pack? It's $65 plus shipping. So six quarts I think maybe more than a quart. Not a cheap man. No, it's not. No, no. Yeah, but it's good product and yeah,

so thoughts from the crew. So Marco Kenora basically single handedly single handedly I had never heard of the term bone broth and I had never considered using any sort of Italian word for broth up until when he started pushing this stuff anyone else anyone else think of this before? What

Yeah, I was first I'd heard right

right stars you know first I think yeah, so he pushes this stuff makes it famous puts a you know health quote unquote health everyone who listens to me knows I don't believe in health is related to healthy food is the food that makes you happy and reduces your stress in life and doesn't like add more problems to your life. That's what's gonna make you live longer in my opinion, wide variety of things low mental stress equals equals a long life anyways, he adds his health tags is holding on to it takes off like wildfire. And then other people just rip off his his. They're just coasting on his business. Kind of like people who knock off the sizzle. weasels? Yeah, weasels. The man should be rich, whether or not you like the product, whether or not you like believe in any health stuff. Like the fact that he convinced all these people to like, take a shot of broth or somehow substitute broth for coffee. That is a knuckleheaded idea, people if what you want is coffee, drink coffee, because because I don't care how long they simmer those bones. Broto is not going to get your motor running, right and coffee, get your motor running in more than one way. Now, for those of you out there who don't have a gastrointestinal intestinal response to coffee, for those of you whose peristalsis works the same whether or not you consume coffee, maybe you don't know this, but for those of us who when we drink a couple of espressos all of a sudden our insights start working at a much quicker pace. Broto ain't gonna fix that, you know, I'm saying no, yeah. But anyway, it's

interesting that I have I was telling you guys about the street bras that I had in Mexico City where they were just like, they had the barrier bras there and like a sipping cup. I guess that's been a thing. Yeah, I mean, that's Broto was the first time I'd like sipped on broth really like in that context.

I mean, hot broth on a cold morning I'm you know, hot broth on a cold morning is a good thing. You know what I mean? Like a lot of cultures know this. Maybe Americans didn't know this, but a lot of cultures know this. Not a replacement for coffee. Anyway, he should be a billionaire. Yeah. Like that's the problem with coming up with an idea that other people can easily draft on and like take take your stuff from he should be a billionaire because he created this market where there was not a For weather, you know, here's another thing. Do you guys notice that now it's becoming so popular for people to give up caffeine? He notices. No, not really. No. Oh my god. It's the new thing. Yeah,

I'm guilty of it, Dave. I did it for I did it for a few months.

Yeah, you went back? No. Listen, I went back here. Let me let me tell you a little. And I'm not. I'm not a psychologist by trade, although I have shrinks in my family. Now. See, when someone says something like that, what that means is they're about to tell you some garbage that has no data behind it is someone else again talking about drafting. If I'm drafting on my stepfather's, you know, doctorate degree and being a psych psychiatrist, then obviously, I'm about to tell you a load of horse crap. And that's true. I have no proof for this. However, it is my strong feeling that when you give up something, for health related reasons, you are bound to feel better because you've done something you didn't want to do to try to improve your health. It's called placebo. Right? So everyone who gives up something they all of a sudden they feel fantastic asking you raw food birth that's also if you go raw, you feel better because you're also going slightly insane because your body is starving itself and you feel that if you're going on the toilet that much it's something interesting must be happening to your insides. I think that's what happens when people think they feel good when they go raw food. But I don't know. I don't understand giving up caffeine moderate. Moderate your caffeine intake. Is that where you are now Jack? Yeah, totally moderate.

No more like no more. I try not to do afternoon coffees because trouble.

Yeah. Like what time the afternoon? My wife has a hard

luck. Yeah, yeah. No, no, I think it's 3pm smart. I think like anytime after that you start getting into danger zone.

Now you have that song going through my head. Highway to the dangerous. It's not a good sign. What

I do, that's my idea for for a Department of Health timer. Oh my god. Three hour thing. Tell the idea. Yeah, please, that's fine. How you the danger zone as soon as like your time temps stuff. It needs to be changed out with like dizziness.

I don't remember how it works. But like, okay, so like, so you have the timer, it goes, it goes on the hotel pan. But it's also it's attached to a thermometer, right. So what you do is it should calculate the cooling curve, right. And then like the the amount of volume that the song plays that is like, dependent on how close how far you are down the highway. So like, yeah, you know, like, like, when you're only like one hour into the cooling cycle. And it's like, I don't know, if you're gonna make it on time. It's like you know what I mean? Yeah. And then like, you know, like, 30 minutes before it's too intense is going crazy. So you can't ignore it anymore. And then you have to spread it out real thin and cool it like that.

For that, John, what do you think?

Great idea. Brilliant.

Give us that right now. I patented it. Yeah, she patented it. And does it come with a free pair of those pizza vomit chef pants

with that Tasmanian devil on it.

Yeah, like Tasmanian devil and all sorts of things that no matter how much food you drop on the pants, they don't look stained. You know, I'm talking about guys. Yeah. They're kind of like grayish black with like, all kinds of like bull crap on it. You could you could you could step into a vat of bolognese sauce and step out of that thing and look the same. Pizza vomit pants. You know, then, yeah. Anyway, that is a good idea. I don't know how we got onto that. But that is a strong that is a strong idea. So you still haven't finished your soup. So you started with Broto and ended with what?

Oh, mushrooms, leeks, and then some Faro

Stacy, Alyssa Frenchie French. You know, I never cook with leaks. You know why? I hate cleaning leaks. And I hate sand. Oh my god, I hate sand. Sand as much as I also don't cook with shallots, because man, they're tiny. And I hate doing that. How depressing. Is it people when you get a shallot and you're like, I finally picked a shallot. That's only one ball on the inside. Right? Then you cut off just a little bit of a route so that there's no sand, but it's gonna stay together while you chop it right? And you're like, you're like I'm gonna simulate this thing like a weed like it's gonna go crazy. I'm gonna have tiny shower pieces. And then you cut the tip of the paper off. You put them in two bones. And then you have to peel another layer off. Yep. That's another one too many times. I mean, what are your feelings? I haven't seen them in years, but they used to make this thing called a Xiaoyan. You seen these? No, they look. Okay, the call is Xiaoyan. They're bigger. They're like, they're like bigger round. They're like, like an inch and a half around or so bigger. And they're long. They look like a Cindy Lou whose head or something like this. But they they're always single bowl. They're bigger. And they but they have more of a shallot taste than an onion taste. And fairway like no other market did you know that because they're closed now. That's why they're like no other market that exists. Yeah, The clothes are like no other market anyways, in the 90s, they used to sell. They used to sell those things all the time. And I was like, Oh, that's a good idea. Maybe I'll use some shallot flavor, but since then I've just erased the shallot from my from my repertoire as I have the leak, even though when other people cook them. I love them because they are delicious. Yeah. Anyways, oh my God says you will get so mad yesterday. I made chili and I sliced all the raw onions. And I was like, You know what? You know, nothing's gonna happen tonight. You know, for me. And so I'm just gonna eat a whole bunch of raw onions because I never get the raw onions because my wife doesn't like raw onions. doesn't like them in the house. So I chopped them right before we had the chili but correct me if I'm wrong, people wrong and people chili without Iranian said you want to? You want the raw onion on top of the chili for people who like raw onion, right? 100%. Yeah. Sounds like

and then she's like, I'm in the mood and you're like,

oh, no, come on. Come on, come on. I gauge myself. Right? I gauge myself, right. So that's fine. But like, the problem is, is that I haven't eaten raw onions in so long, because I don't like I'm not really allowed to have them in my house. That I forgot what it's like to go to bed. Have your hand come up by your nose and smell the onion coming out of your skin up to your nose right after you eat it. And I was like, oh, yeah, it does suck. You know what I mean? It's worth it. Totally worth it. Totally worth it. 100% worth it. They should make a pill. Here's the money. Here's some money chemistry people make a pill. Forget Dino. Although I've done a lot of tests with Dino recently, you guys remember Beano? Yeah, that's the anti the anti tivity the anti tooting enzyme, whatever, they could make an enzyme that you ate it after you ate the raw onion and it prevented that that'd be amazing. No Sure. Yeah, sure. I love that I would love Yeah, because Anastasia likes the flavor just doesn't like the aftermath. But maybe it's the smell coming out of your skin is what gives you nightmares.

No, it's definitely in I think I have what Jen has where it's like it's I it's it's a weird reaction in my in everything

like mouth every Gen is like Jen doesn't like being at the table when it happens. So like I literally chopped the onion. Put it on top of my chili. We did the Fritos with chili. What are your thoughts? Fritos? Yeah, yeah, good call freedom. Freedom God snack chip. For real Come on. I mean, like I love a traditional tortilla. But in terms of like modern things. Fritos straight up. Great. Anyway. So I dumped the onion, and then immediately covered it with like cheese and lettuce and all stuff to kind of keep tamp down the aroma of the onion. Because if I even have it sitting on the table, when Jen comes up to the table, she's like, dammit, what the hell? Who has the onions? She doesn't talk like that at all. So those of you that know her, she hasn't talked like that at all. But that's kind of what that's what her mind is saying. Anyway, so we still have not finished your soup. John, what's going on here? You got the

power period, the onions and the mushrooms and in shower and leaks and leaks? Yes. Yeah. And then yeah, cooked the grains and the broth and

which grants evens mentioned. Oh, stars likes that something she actually enjoys?

Delicious. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, man. Was

that how? How pearled was the Faro that you use? How much brand was on the outside? Were they white or with a brown? Pretty white, pretty white but but still enough that they didn't burst? Or did they burst that in burst? What are your feelings when they burst? little sad. Yeah. But how much start flew off to thicken up the broth enough. But you have to write it anyway. You create it and then add the grain deeper everything together. So only a small amount of grain or just

what the leeks and the mushrooms pureed them than cooked grains in the broth and then added the puree. Have you

talked on the air about your sweat tests? What sweat test your sweat tests, your broth sweat tests. Remember, like a year ago, I was like does it really make a difference? Whether you sweat the sweat the miracle? Oh,

right, right. Right. Right. Yeah, man. What were the results of that? I think it did make a bit of a difference.

Did you say that made a difference? We didn't know what the difference was because you weren't for all us. It don't know, John, like is, you know, he's a little bit of a Francophile? You know, I'm saying like not just a francophone as I say, but a Francophile. So when he sweats his veg he doesn't let it brown he goes he goes Frenchie French make MC don't let it brown you know what I mean? Which I think is kind of trash can I like a little bit of brown on my on my onions especially if I'm going to broth a fire them you know? Yeah. Do you sweat long enough for them to go brown? Like caramelized brown or no, you don't sweat out which is a slight sweat. Yeah, but even though even though some nights sweat a night sweat. Yeah. So Right. So you said it didn't make a difference who made the broth different? Yeah, but we can't figure it out why?

But it was a little bit sweeter

as possible that's Probably only an onion phenomenon like what's the point in sweating the the salary for instance? Yeah,

I'm gonna have to redo it. And I'm just doing each and each ingredient individually.

I'm doing a demo tomorrow at my old arch nemesis, ice. Because the French culinary we were arch nemesis is this. This is with ice. But now that the FCI was bought by ICE, I guess I can go. So I'm going to do a demo tomorrow with Chef Mr. Rivera, my old friend from the FCA. And we're going to do the old onion ice cream speaking of onions that Nils and I used to do at the French culinary and that one we pressure cook the onions and the onions go you should not pressure cook onions for for caramelized onions because it raises almost all of the onion flavor. It's too much right the high temperatures are raised like too much of it, but it's great for onion ice cream. And by the way, I don't know if I've said this on air, if you are making things like I do a lot of I don't do beef chili in the like, way anyway, if you're going to do things like pork or big things, and you're gonna braise them or like a carbon odd with big pieces of beef in a pressure cooker, you need to like triple your onion load because the flavor of the onion drops down so hard but then you also need to slightly reduce the sugar load because it's going to be a little bit sweeter. I always add a little bit of sugar to those things. So you guys know a little bit. Yeah, a little bit. You know, don't be afraid of adding a little bit of sugar. By the way. You probably already know this if you're listening to us anyway. But don't be afraid to add a little sugar. I'm shocked like when dad when I'm teaching tax how to how to finish food, right? Like, you know, soups and stews and things like this. He's like, Oh, this doesn't taste right. And like add a little bit of salt, that little bit of sugar. And because you know, like it's very hard for him to work his mind around the difference between something being bad. And just oh, it needs a little bit of sugar to like bring it together to knock down the bitterness a little bit and just you know what I mean? Yeah, and it needs salt to punch up all the flavors. He just it's astounds me how you can't get that into your head unless you do it. You know what I mean?

By Thai food so awesome, man, because like, you know, like fish sauce and sugar at the table. You can do you can do it. You can follow the adjustments you make. They're awesome.

Thai food is hard. Delicious. Am I right? So hard. Delicious. It's so delicious. Yeah.

I mean, last night was a Bangkok

pasta lately in Bangkok, what from

the top Bangkok mall pasta from the from the night market book. So it's like, it's spaghetti. And it's like stir fried with garlic. Anchovy chili has sort of like the Holy Trinity and then red pepper and oyster sauce, Thai seasoning. Kind of

like that in big big scare quotes, Thai seasoning.

And then and green brined green peppercorns, which is really the only thing I use them for it, but it was just them around

the dry greens or the pickled greens.

The pickled Brian? Brian, Brian.

I think you said Ron. Yeah. Yeah, I never keep them around in my house. Should I start keeping them around in my house?

I don't use them for anything else.

Do you like when they're draped over in that Viny weird form? Or is that too much too much for you?

Actually, sometimes I do it that way. Yeah. That's fun, more visual.

Here's a product that I don't like. Unless they're blended. caper berries. Too salty. Too salty. To eat on their own sliced wedges. wedges. Fine. Too salty. Okay, for those you listen here, you've heard me many times rail against the session one button because who wants to have your tastebuds erased? Oh, we have a caller. All right, remind me that John, we get that caller. You're on the air. What's up?

I just got a call. Last week, there was a conversation about intergenerational relationships. And, you know, I just think the word gross got used. And that's not very nice. You shouldn't be criticizing people, how people fall in love. A lot of people can learn things from people of different generations. And I think people follow them on growth is pretty good.

I don't have any recollection of what you're talking about at all. But I'll tell you

when you said that was especially for me or or give me more. That's what you brought up to me more on Ashton Kutcher. We

weren't even talking about

how that was. How to Date within your own range.

What I'm saying what I Okay, it's coming back to me slightly. It's coming back to me slightly. My recollection was is that I disagree with you. Yeah. Okay, well, we'll wait we'll see what happens when you will see what happens this dassia Stasio I'm gonna zing you can hear him singing me. We'll see what happens when you actually date someone. What age it is

yeah. Oh man, I'm

not I'm not hard. I'm not hard one way or the other. Like, I think I've told the story of my brother in law, whom I love, right? I thought there's no fun, Tom, I thought there was no way that he should go out with my sister. Because now remember, he was in high school. And he was a senior and she was a freshman. I'm like, nope. I was like, Nope. Not gonna work. He's he's just trying to like go out with someone much less experienced. And it's a nightmare. He's doing some sort of power trip. I was wrong in that case, right. Individual relationships are individual relationships. Right? That's 100% the truth.

Yeah, but then you say something like their gross national cake.

Which Which ones whose gross? Your comment.

And so what they like each other a lot of people have intergeneric are like, workout well.

Remember, on maturity,

individual relationships are individual relationships, specifically Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher. That's gross. Because he was weird that they never looked like that's the whole point of being a human the stars here is that you get to have your own judgment and I get to have my own judgment. They never looked like that. How people fall in love is gross. I don't say how they fall in love is gross. I said that couple was gross. They don't look like they go together. They never looked like they go together. Look, she gets her Debbie more very attractive woman. Right. I just I just felt that as a couple. They look gross together. What do you want out of me? Well, it's not the

presidency, man. The president. Right?

You're talking about McCrone now? Yeah. I mean, I haven't seen them together. I just saw that. You just brought to my attention. The age gap that they have there?

Well, that's also another good example. Because it wasn't she his teacher at some point, like

Yeah, that's. That's gross. I was like, hot for teacher. That's gross. Listen, teachers out there. Do not mind your students for sex. I mean, that's very easy. Don't mind your students for six. That's all my opinion. Individual relationships may vary. That's my opinion. Like in general, you should not do that.

Well, that's not a rule that I would follow from you or I'm glad that you're

speaking to McCrone though the reason McCrone came up this dasya is that when he was going to shut down was he was going to shut down for Omicron. Right? And we were like, if McCrone was here, or if they had to post in France, the headline would have been like, oh, McCrone, right, like, oh, Macron.

I didn't get that until I got that. And yeah,

that's how that came. Right now. Anyway. I'm gonna go ahead and stand by what I'm saying is that in the majority of the time, right, I feel like you're probably gonna have it again. Everyone's different. Forget about this just for me. I'm glad that I'm that I'm married to someone who has similar life experience, your results may vary. You can do what you want. I'll stand by my Ashton Kutcher, Demi Moore and PS they're not together anymore. Why? Because that relationship did not work out. For whatever reason. Did that relationship work out? Wait, are they married? Wait, is our Ashton Kutcher and Demi Moore married? Yeah, yeah. Right. Yes.

John, John, John Hill, your your thing.

I got so angry when this happens. So my mom came to pick me up in the city a couple of weeks ago, to go back up to Connecticut. And I was walking out of my building with my dog. And this, this freaking lady is walking by, you know, pushing her kid in her stroller. And she looks at my dog. She's like, Oh, is that your girlfriend? And I was just like, oh, hold up. And I was just like, Oh, she's you know, just being cute. It's a cute dog. You know? Thanks. Appreciate it. I was like, oh, maybe. And then she looks at me. She's like, you shouldn't reevaluate your life decisions. And then I realized that she was looking at my mom who was outside of the car right outside the building picking me up. And I was just I was confused and like speechless, and I was like, What is this lady talking about? And then after she walked away, pieced it together, and she was talking about my mom and I was like, one fu like, that's, that's its own thing.

That perhaps your mom, you didn't think that sure props

to my mind. But you know what? Mainly mind your own business lady. What if that is my girlfriend, so I ended up getting a speeding ticket.

You can't let that stuff get to you, man. It's true though. People same thing. Do you on the street? Like burns?

Right? Well, it's just like mind your own businesses New York City nobody wants to talk to you don't talk to me like just barely even on the way we really did.

Okay, so let me ask you a question. So for the for those of you that have never driven out of New York now I know you la people are like you don't know from traffic in New York, fine, or DC people. But like, nothing really is less pleasant than trying to fight your way out of Manhattan up the East Side of Manhattan up the 95 corridor into Connecticut. After a certain period of time during the day. It is, is soul crushing, right?

It's almost worse than LA traffic in a way that is the worst described? Well,

since there was you know, you would know better than I because you've done both. You know what I mean? I've never really done the LA traffic thing. And also LA traffic. At least you're like, Oh, I've seen a million movies about LA traffic. No one like no one films a movie. Like on i 95. Yeah. Yeah. So when you're driving on i 95 people if there's any people who make movies, right? When when you make the movie of the person who's caught in traffic on i 95. The joke to make is as you're driving up through my my anus, which is an actual sign that you see on i 95. Like near Stanford, it's a place my anus. It's pronounced me in this. I think we always call it my anus. You're supposed to turn to

whoever gets my anus. Do you mind you

do your anus. So the joke to make when you're driving past his sign every time and never never gets old is heavy traffic through my anus. And then that's it. That's all you got to say. I mean, we're slow going through my anus.

I wish I could call the show that this week. That'd be a great title.

He's gonna mean this. You can do that. You know what I mean? Anyway? Yeah. Wait. So it's we're still on? Wait. So here's the thing. Here's the problem. I'm sure this will happen. So you're on that I 95 corridor? Yep. So it should take 4045 minutes to fight like up to the Stanford. It takes probably an hour and a half, two hours, something like this. From here in the city. Yeah, yeah. So you're going further north and that you're going past New Haven? Nightmare. And anyway, the problem with that is you're sitting there and you're probably thinking of come back suing CenturyLink have come back that you should have said so many things. I wish it did differently. So what are the comebacks that you should have used? No real comebacks. I

just wanted to like, go back and just yell at her and tell her to mind her own business.

It's in the Stasi. And I feel we've had this discussion many times. Whenever that happens. Does we just sit around thinking of comebacks we should use?

Yeah, for me wasn't comments was like how I should have reacted the situation. You can talk

to your mom, right? Sure. Yeah,

I don't think I'll go back to prostitute props to your mom. You should have said she was my teacher.

I'm a little confused. So your mother looks young?

I don't know. She's 6566. You're

asking John to think about her mom and his way. That's pretty hard to know. I

just don't understand why this lady would want to say that.

I don't know. Yeah, I don't know either.

People are dumb look. Yeah. Also, some people are just high too. Who knows what she sees out of her mind. Yeah,

baby in a stroller.

Oh, all of a sudden, people stopped baking out because they have kids. That's not been my experience.

Speaking of this might be interesting. It's not really food related. But apparently there is a major new study out on psilocybin and its effects on long term cognition. Apparently, it's fine. Fine. I never tried it makes me nervous. Makes me nervous. Yeah. Okay, so who else do we have coming up after day one rich?

Don't we have coming up? We have I believe we have Nazli and Catherine from lowfat. And then we have Dr. Jessica Harris,

also from Movember. From everything.

Then Adam DiMartino would have somebody that's also put us in touch with him. We got Francisco, Nagoya, then Nick from Grove and Vine and working on getting Kenji on to discuss his new book because Walk, walk,

walk, I listen. We Nick Nick is the Stasi as olive oil friend. Right? So

sweet. Dave, can we do a blind tasting? I really want to do a blind tasting, like with all of the crap versions from like, Stop and Shop like and then his you know what I mean? It would be really interesting on air.

Yeah, that'd be cool. Okay. Here's my issue with that. Yeah, in general. Like, I think blind tastings are an opportunity to make people feel bad about themselves. Yeah, I'm saying it's like, they're like kind of like gotcha moments. It's kind of like the it I just there's so many things you evaluate in a black like triangle tastings are interesting to test the difference between different things like but like, especially cereal, bright wine tastings and kind of a weird atmosphere, especially when panelists aren't trained to taste a particular thing. I mean, I think it's, I don't know, it's just an opportunity. That's like, whenever we

like the Reese's Peanut Butter thing, you know,

I don't know. Well, I can remember like, when we would do demonstrations at the at the French culinary all the time. Like one of the things I would always try to not do is make people feel bad about the choices that they were making, when we would give them like three different samples, like try to make them feel bad about it. You know what I mean? I mean, some people can reliably choose garbage like my, my grandpa, you know, the kind of one who's kind of a bit of a nightmare could reliably taste jug wine, when presented with jug wine and like 82 Bordeaux, and reliably chose the jug wine, not just out of out of a group, but as his favorite. You know what I mean? So wow, yeah, that rules. Kind of my feeling is, is that he did it just to be a dick. Like, in other words, like, he, you know, it's more important for him to be a dick than it is for him to have something that's enjoyable. I really feel that that was what was going on in crab grandpa's head, but you know, who knows? I can't ask him any more, because he's dead. But when Nick comes on, Nick, the olive oil guy, maybe we can do a blind date we should definitely do a tasting people don't forget about and Hassan maybe we can pre record some mouth noises to freak out some of our No. So I did the 23andme thing and it says that I am genetically less likely to be bothered by chewing noises. Completely wrong. Completely wrong. Anastasia and I've had this discussion I think we've even had it on air. When someone is cooking your dinner or lunch or somebody is working do not get a crunchy snack and sit behind them making crunching noises into their freaking ears. Am I right says