Cooking Issues Transcript

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Hello and welcome to cooking issues. This is Dave Arnold, your host of cooking issues coming to you studios at Rockefeller Center. Calling all your questions live if you're listening on Patreon 2917410 1507. That's 917-410-1507 joined in the usual as usual in the studio with Anastasia the hammer Lopez. How you doing? Good. We got John. Hello. Yeah, yeah. All right. We got here in our New York booth. We got Joe Hasan, what's up?

Hey, how are you guys?

And for the first time we're live from Mexico City. We got Jackie molecules in Mexico City. How you doing? Yeah. Now you sound like you're in Mexico City. Do I really You sound like you're in sound like you sound like you're

like you're in the container in the back of a bird is actually

not so dissimilar.

what it sounds like is it sounds like you're locked in a bathroom is what it sounds like. In the bathroom, I'm

actually on the balcony right now in Roman north.

That's where Claire lives.

And for those of you that don't know, haven't listened to the entire oppressive back catalogue of cooking issues Claire, you might remember her as the wedding officiant from a couple of seasons back and also the first person who called in a question to the show about working her virginity

oh my god Wow. Remember sir back? Yep.

Yeah, should you the virginity Chronicles now yeah, now again, I'm not talking out of turn here she legitimately called in and I don't know why she was interested in spiralizing all of her vegetable spiralizing wasn't a term yet at that time. So everything everybody referred to that you know, style of zucchini string as by the brand name the jetty and so she legitimately called and asked what kinds of things she could stick into her virginity. And of course hilarity ensued now Anastasia did she actually not know what she was doing?

She didn't she didn't Yeah, I don't buy that you'll you'll ask her in

person we the since since we've downloaded the entire back catalogue we should just do like we should just do like like the the the Jedi Croc Chronicles as like a little thing for the Patreon people just like you know gather the the jetty Chronicles into one Rishikesh gather all of the Claire into one thing we should just take people's guests like, favorite punching bag. Peter can moment. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we'll have like, we'll have like a guest reels for the people that came on, you know, more than once and had kind of ongoing thingamajigs Yeah, yeah. The Stasi sister only came on once and I was like, she was so what's it called traumatized by she remember she was the Stasi sister was supposed to do dump meals right? She was supposed to make a dump meal from that dump meal book. That was another thing. We used to talk about people these dump meals because the idea of a dump meal just as a verbal thing. She doesn't sound good. You know what I mean? Yeah. Horrible, horrible dump. Hey, you that's what you do. Like way after the meal. You have the meal. Then later on? You do the dump. You know what I mean? It's like, it's like, like, if you look. Hey, one pot meal. Sounds great. Right? That's why like, oh, Insta pot. It happens instantly. Which it does not right. All that stuff. Sounds great. Don't meal dope. Anyway,

I want to listen to the wine. The wine episode. I want to see how progressively drunk we got. I've never I didn't listen to it. And maybe it was made some people angry. Yeah, and okay, so happy. I really want to know this.

Yeah, it did. Really? Yeah. Terrible. Wow. Yeah. So again, sorry, little inside baseball. What happened was they can listen to it. Well, they have to we have to give them a teaser of why of what what's going on? So what happened was mister Nastasia and I decided that we were going to do wines made by rock stars. And so we had a sommelier slash Blue Man Group. Exile right, a former Blue Man Group just and a rock and roll writer. Right Jordanna Rothman right. Oh, that's another one. We got to do a compilation of the Rothman Chronicles. And then we were there and we had I think, a wine by Dave Matthews. A wine by none other than les Claypool, by the way, less clay Paul's wines. Good. Good. Later Primus later Primus, man. Now my thing. I mean, like he's one of those musicians that somehow Like as he got older got less commercial. You know what I'm saying? It's like

it's true. We got we got weirder. It's true. Yeah. more esoteric. That's true.

Yeah. I mean, like so esoteric that it's like, like, the intro to any like recent Primus song is longer than any normal album, meaning I mean like like an hour and then the songs or whatever anyway, I love Primus don't get me wrong. They're touring right now you know they're touring and they're playing basically rush songs I think. Oh my god, yeah, that's gotta be something anywho I forget who else is wines. We like Whitesnake, it was a wine not made by Whitesnake, but like named after the Whitesnake. We didn't have the tool wine, which is why Anastasia wants to do it again, right? Yeah, yeah, she's the Stasi is all about that tool. Wine. Yeah. All tool all the time anyways. So we didn't realize how much wine there was. And I forget who is running the booth was a Dave at the time. I think so. No one stopped us, Joe. So it's obviously like, imagine you're sitting there. The engineer, we start the show at noon. Like 4pm We're still going in no one says, Hey, stop. And they're just popping bottles.

It was bad. Sounds sounds like raucous. It was.

It was something it was something.

Did you turn it off? John? Or did you listen? Yeah, no, I

didn't finish. So. So in this, by the way, people just see, you know, like, this is, again, more inside baseball for you. But you know, we'd like to hear from people. So Anastasia and I are like, listen, basically, if you meet us in the real life, we're kinda like, we're always the same people. Like the people you hear, like, here, like we're kinda like this, like, similar to this and the real life, right? Yeah. Similar. Yep. Yeah. I mean, not not dissimilar. Right. But like, we don't necessarily talk about the same things. And our humor might go in a different way. Like, like, we don't always talk about food and food, tangents. Sometimes our tangents are about other things. We never talk about food. Well, because you hate talking about for you. When I talked to John, I talked about food. Yeah, we talked about food a lot. Yeah. See, John and I talked about food, fitness. Stassi doesn't actually enjoy talking about food. Like that. Yeah, that's that's the issue. Right? So for whoever I was going, oh, so we're like, Hey, listen, we're moving to a new network. I don't know if you know this, you're listening to this on a new network, where we're at newstand studios now live from Rockefeller Center. And if you had, you know, a phone call, you could call in to 9174102 to seven. So we're on this new studio. And we're like, well, we could change it up a little bit. And then the Stasi is like, well, if we if we talk more about the stuff that we would actually talk about in the real life, to people that we would be talking to in the real life. None of our hardcore listeners would listen to us, we'd lose them all. And we wouldn't gain any new people. She's like, look at the wind episode. And that's what that's basically the argument. The argument is, is, is there some sort of cutting the baby in half no situation where you can cut the baby in half, but the baby doesn't die? No. You know, I'm saying, Well, I know that Anastasia is the queen of the negative thing. I would love

it. But I know the truth would feel like that our core group would not be happy.

I'm not happy with you. I mean, they don't

know not happy about this, to what brings us back to maybe a 10 year old idea, which is the companion podcast called issues

issues. I had someone had an idea for a for a video series for the Patreon you want to hear what it's called. Not here. voiding the warranty with Dave Arnold. What do you think we're we like people to send us stuff and we just void the warranty as fast as possible in the most outlandish way. It's voiding the warranty. Like that had to do. Yeah, you know what, you know what I need more of in my life. I need like blessed thinking and more people just handing me things to be like a pitch idiot for I wish I could just be a pitch monkey. You know what I mean? Like, listen, people anyone's listening to the sound of my voice. If I like your product, I am a good pitch monkey. I but my problem is it's hard for me to be a pitch monkey for something. I think, sir. Speaking of which, something sucks. I do have a semi food related thing that sucks. That happened. Ready? Right. All right. So for those of you Joe, you grew up No way. You grew up around here. Yeah, no, right. No, I grew up in South Florida, South Florida. Farge. Alright. So if you grew up in this area, or were in New York in the 80s and 90s, there was a commercial all the time for a banquet hall. Right. It was called, called the Grand prospect Hall in Brooklyn. Right. It was built in 1899 as kind of a later version of kind of those grand old halls where people used to go have big parties, you know, in the kind of the Gilded Age kind of era thing. Big old big old banquet hall. And it was a husband wife that owned it for decades. And they would have this commercial where it was like this, like some some idiots wedding. And then they would have like these, this like old couple and they go that grand prospect Hall. Like your dream is a reality. Like that, you know, we make Oh, we make your dreams come true like that, like it was the husband said one line and the wife said the other the grand prospect talk, we make your dreams come true. Like this was crazy. And they're gonna forget where they were from or whatever. But like, my whole life, I'm like, I'm gonna do an event at the grant prospect or I'm gonna do it, my dream is going to become a reality. And then like, you know, like, you know, my wife and I, we'd be like, Grant prospect hall where your nightmares are fantasy, like we just kept on like changing up the words at the end. And the last owner died during a pandemic COVID-19 got sold to a developer and they're gonna knock it down. They're gonna knock down the grand prospect Hall. It's, it's get this it's on the Register of Historic Places. But it's not landmark. What? Yes, it's right on that border. It's like, everyone's like, Yeah, it's cool. We probably should do something. And then they're like, but you know, now, you know what I'm saying. Now?

Not cool enough. Not cool.

Not cool enough. And, you know, that's just yet another one of those things like seeing Neil Diamond in concert that I'll never do. I'll never have a party at the Grand prospect Hall. I'll definitely never see Neil Diamond to the grand prospect Hall. You know, I mean, never said, if any of you who hear this have ever been to the grand prospect Hall. Oh my god. Remember, I told you guys, they had a party every year some sort of festival that was related to the that whatever culture The owners were from, I forget where it was, but it's an amazing like, 343 floor party that they would have every year. And we were slated to go to it. I forget what it was. And then the pandemic happened. never

remember the library party? Dave? How not cool. That would be no. Oh, yeah.

So like, Manhattan cocktail classic. Back in the day, they would take over the entire New York Public Library and basically just cover it with a thin film of human fluids of all kinds. Yeah, it was. The parties were inappropriate. And so like, I remember, like, one year, Anastasia, and I were like, they're like, Hey, you want to make some cop? You want to do some work at the party? We're like, okay, and so like we do it and then they're like you're doing the non alcoholic Okay, they're like you're doing steampunk, I'm like what? And then like I ended up having to carry two five gallon I bought for those of you that aren't familiar with old style American military backpacks. The Vietnam era backpack was called an like ALICE pack with a frame on it right? So it's a steel frame and you could buy a shelf so we bought this steel ALICE pack frame, bought two five gallon Cornelius kegs. And we ratchet tied the two five gallon kegs to the backpack and then then zip tied a five gallon co2 tank, a five pound co2 tank to it. And then we put ice into the into the thing right stars was an ice into the cornice so that we didn't have to have a cold plate or did I have a cold plate on my bill? Yeah, yeah. And then I had to soda guns, right pressurize his tank on my back and I carried 10 gallons plus the cornice plus the guns plus the co2 on my back like an idiot dressed in moronic steampunk, he remembers like aviators or whatever, like stuff all night going. And people are like, what do you got? I'm like, what? And they're like, No, thanks. Because it's it's wasn't that kind of party. Right? Yeah.

It was so inappropriate. The things they had going on there that it wouldn't fly today.

Yeah, that's also true. My back hurts so much torture across the board. Yeah. The most inappropriate party though. The one where like, God literally told us not to do it during the party. Was that vodka launch? We did? I don't remember that. Was that before your time? Maybe. So I took a so PolyScience used to make or they still make these chillers right like the one we use the one we use for the road of Epstein's. Remember that chiller, right. And so, the way these circulators it works like an immersion circulator. But instead of using a heater, it's got like a little knee motor and then it's got a evaporator coils like wrapped around basically like like a tall hotel pan. You can you picture me. Yep, yep. All right. So then you fill that with whatever you want to chill and it circulates and chills instead of instead of heating it and then on the back, you could tap into the motor so that you could like push cold liquid out and put it back in. So I modified that and filled it with vodka and ran the ran the pump at minus 20 minus 20 degrees Celsius so I was pulling minus 20 Fresh minus 20 shots into shot glasses that we were also keeping like hyper chilled and like hitting them out to people. And let's file that under something never to do. Again, don't ever do that at a party. It was gross. Like all of the first of all, vaca launch is no offense to vodka people but like a vodka launches, all they do is they hire the youngest, most attractive people they can to hang around and make everyone else feel like they look that way when they're having the vodka, which they don't write it. But the the other thing is that they just got completely hosed and the people were falling on the ground. And at one point, this is where God came in. It wasn't supposed to storm that night. And all of a sudden, it started gusting outside like 4050 mile an hour winds and it blew these doors open on the on the floor of the ballroom and like just a huge bunch of like leaves and wind and rain came in. And just like whoa, I just looked down and I was like, Oh, I'm doing something bad. And there's like, you know, people stumbling around, like falling over. It's just a just a nightmare. And then one of the interns who was working with me picks up as as though I hadn't gotten enough. Notice that I was doing something bad. picks up a bottle of vodka and it just literally she's holding the neck and the bottle just goes pink and just falls in shatter. She's still holding the bottle like God literally broke the bottle so that we would not serve any more vodka crazy. Color. You're on the air.

David Smith from Mystic Hey, how

you doing? How's it going and missing? How do you how do you survive the hurricane? It didn't happen to you?

Yeah, it was pretty, pretty easy read. Yeah.

When you're on Masons or you're on a mystic proper?

No, yeah, I'm I'm closer to the drawbridge.

For those who don't know, Mystic mystic Connecticut has this cute little. They call it what he called the bascule bridge with the hexa bascule.

The French word for that style of bridge. I think

mean? They mean like it couldn't. It's not like basketball like trips off the tongue. You think they could have just called it something else? Like a mystic style drawbridge?

Yeah, I mean, no one here calls it bascule. Everyone here just calls it the bridge.

All right. You don't want to

get stuck by the bridge?

No, no, because then you got to go all the way around or just wait the 35 seconds it takes for the boat to go through and then go back down again. Right. So what do you got for us?

Well, so last, I just wanted to follow up on last week, the person who was asking you about the best ice cream technology at home. Okay. And I think the dry ice technique that ChefSteps has a video on which you can just Google like, chest F dry ice cream is the best at home just for in terms of like equipment you needed just to stand mixer and dry ice. pulverize it

right now. Sure. How do they make sure that they just gotta let it sit long enough to make sure that nothing happens.

That's exactly right. Yeah, and you know, they recommend pulverizing it very small basically to like a fine powder. So that you don't have any big chunks in there. But yeah, they I think it's also like if you let it you basically let it settle and off gas for a couple hours.

off gas. That was my nickname. Yeah. Yeah, you gotta let it up. Did Did I ever tell on air? Have you remember to ever tell on air what I used to like to do to Anastasia whenever we had dry ice?

No, you put it in? You put it in the metal thing? Yeah,

you put a sheet pan on the counter. And, you know, like a hotel pan and then you put the dry ice and remember that says bad. Real bad. Real bad. Yeah. Well, nice to see like that technique. It's useful.

I think so. It's just in terms of like ease like I've you know, I've used the salt in the ice machine. I love that. Which also, it's a very good result. But, you know, if you have a stand mixer, and you can get dry ice that to me is the the best you know, I've used it on a number of different style of bases and it works great for for anything.

Cool. Awesome. Well, I appreciate it. By the way, Chris Young. We got to coordinate he wants to do a ninja thing. We're gonna do the new new fake the phaco jet Ninja has a phaco jet John, you're gonna try to get a hold of the phaco jet Correct? Yes. All right.

That looks good. That looks good too. Because I'd be curious to see how that thing performs.

Yeah, me too. You know I've I've used to Paco I've used a fake Italian want to use the fake ninja?

Yeah, cool. Oh, so the one so one thing I did I lost a walnut tree during the hurricane. Have You Ever Have you ever like use walnuts like a black walnut tree? thing? I know you're

not mean? Yeah, I worked with walnut all the time. If you are going to use the wood just be careful. Sometimes it tears out you should just live edge it. If it's if it's a big walnut tree, you know you can go to harbor freight. And you can get a you can get a sawmill delivered to your house like a bandsaw mill and then you can just live live slab that sucker, and then have it sitting out there on like, you know, you lift it in between and you put little things so that it can dry out. You got to lift the slabs off of each other. And then yeah, I mean like that. That's what I would do if I still had a place in Connecticut. I would have a what's it called a sawmill? A bandsaw sawmill? That's what I would do.

Yeah, because I don't

I've never heard of anyone do you Johnny ever heard anyone doing anything with it? No, I haven't. No,

no. Yeah, I would people make like no Chino with it. Which is like the Walmart lacouture

Would they make that with the with the immature walnuts?

No, but this this thing was this thing was full of the green wall. Oh, yeah.

Then make an infusion. Yeah, it's a little late in the season. That stuff is very early like that. This the Southern French from like, they like pick it very early in the season when they're still soft. And that's how they do those things. Right now. They should be almost ripe. You know what I mean? So like, right? Yeah, yeah, maybe the harvest I'm doing a fusion. I thought you meant to what?

No, no, no, the actual fruit the fruit.

Don't let some idiot come chum that would up that's valuable. What if it's a big tree? Okay, they show up? Well, chum it. Jerks?

I hate it. I hate you guys. But this is a different show. Yeah.

That's true trigger show. All right. Thanks. Talk to you soon. I hope. Caller you're on the air.

Hey, David. David from California here.

What are you doing? Doing? Alright.

Hey, coming to New York City. It's been a long time. So just need some restaurant recommendations. A handful.

Well, I'm gonna have to have John do that. I don't go I don't I don't really go. Look, I didn't go out that much during the pandemic like Not at all. In fact, I went only versus the one place I went to famous. I went to Keynes. INS Yeah. And went to Keynes to have their Lamb The mutton chop. Good. Good. Anastasia took me to for chat here over in the Rockefeller Center because she loves everything Rockefeller Center. And then that's about all that I've gone out to since the panda if any of you guys have been to some good places since the pandemic

coats I was there. Two Fridays ago really, really delicious. Really great Korean barbecue with American steakhouse commercial. It was really great. Loved it really good food

say American steakhouse merch merge. Merge. Yeah, I like they're like we do food but we have steakhouse merch in the back. The weird where do we go downtown

Racine but they've closed Yeah.

Yeah, that's that's the tough thing. So the last time I was in New York, we went to WD 50 We went to Booker and DAX

so go go to go to one of Jeremiah and fabulous places go to the wild air Contra. Like go check that kind of stuff out. You know you know if you haven't been in a long time go see Stu packs place up there the you know, the the Uptown stew pack joint and

let's just go to Choza in

Mexico City. Okay. I'm sorry. Oh, yeah.

Hey, by the way, Jackie molecules. If you're in Mexico City if you don't find the squash blossom KC dia. Like Lady you are persona non grata. Look you know who she is. She's got a trash bag full of freakin squash blossoms. I'm gonna do contractor bag go to Merced, you go in the entrance where they sell all the pin Jada's there's the pin yada entrance. Go in there, hook. All right, keep walking, keep walking, to keep walking till you get to where they're selling food. She's on the left, kind of near the end. You'll see a trash bag right at the well not the stand that periodic area.

Area. Okay. Although, hey,

opinion a business hit real hard by the pandemic. I don't know what it's like right now down there. I read an article that I'm not kidding, the Kenyatta business got completely obliterated by because no one was going to parties.

Well, so that that brings up an interesting wrinkle. I will have my seven year old with me so the restaurant can't be too Frou Frou it does need to be somewhat kid friendly, somewhat?

Well, that's the question. It all depends on your seven year old when I was seven year old. I was like a hill when I was not in a restaurant but at a restaurant. I was like my food please. And I would eat it all without saying anything because I love eating all my whole life. You know what I mean? Whereas if I took, you know, my kids, they'd be like, Can I go now? Can I go? You know what I mean? So that's going to depend When you're a kid, I mean most most restaurant people here Well, bars don't work. But if it's a restaurant restaurant as long as like the kids into it, I think you know, the server should be fine with it.

And even if you're a little iffy about it there's so many places that are doing outdoor dining right now. You could be able to sit outside and feel pretty good about it because the streets of New Yorker

Yeah, where the where the where the Paris of New York now we're like you know, it it's true. You know how like in Paris, like NO SWEAT IT just sit outside? Who cares? You know, parents say, Hey, you can even eat here with your dog now. You can sit outside. Well, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Not your dog.

Whoa, hey. Well,

so so. Yeah, so your dog is not ill behaved. John.

She's been acting up the past couple of weeks. You chewed through my air pods the other week? Which is a very I that's like two bites. Yeah, but still, it's like $140

you think it is but it's like a Mentos. It's like a lid. It's like one bite. Yes. A true through like she was sitting working at it for hours

picked it apart. Oh, to pick that from the part. Rip the middle out of the way. How

do you do that? She doesn't have opposable thumbs. She was I think this is a genius dog. Is the genius dog.

Maybe. Yeah, that's an all I have to create. Every time I leave. I don't trust her anymore. She's done a couple other things to to be really bad.

Wow. Now, you're as you're a stern dog father. Yeah, I guess Yeah. Yeah. All right. Do we answer? We're good. Right. We answered. We answered. Yes. Yes. Yes. All right. Okay. All right. KENNETH will wrote in speaking of small grills, and by that because we were talking before about that portable grill, that portable grill that I had, by the way also, I appreciate I got some tweets from people from the last week's episode that went and bought Quinn's book and so far the people who have bought the book you know what they said? Good things worth five worth five bucks. You know, I'm saying anyway, so we're talking about this like portable two pound grill that I had because I went to go shoot something I needed a portable grill speaker to small grills, does the cooking issues crew have any thoughts or tips on camera grills after listening to film I got 470 Plus episodes. I don't remember you guys talking about bench Aton or yaki Tory yaki Tory is a great word. The Stasi, remember when we went to the yakitori joint in and we were like, we're gonna go good to chicken, they call it sashimi but it's not sashimi, right? It's like they take the chicken, they to verify it. They make little tubes, probably out of the tenderloin right out of the breast, maybe was thigh I don't remember his thigh and then they they just roll it over there. So yaki Tori grills are real hot and then that you put a very quickly on him just color the outside, right? Or you can you can do whatever you want. But that's what they did. And they remember they took the three pieces that were kind of just white on the outside and raw on the inside. And they smashed it into like a triangle shape like almost like a tricycle on like that. Whatever that like three arm thing is they those little weird shapes. And my feeling on the Chicken sashimi was fine. Yeah. I wasn't like, Oh my God. Yeah. You know what I mean? I was like, fine. Yeah. Yeah.

To the best bar ever. Oh, yeah. My

God. We've talked about that on your Halloween probably. I think it will never be able to find it was somebody's house. Imagine this. Imagine that you're in New York City because Tokyo is much bigger than New York City. You know what I mean? It's like, it's like imagine if it was like LA but dance is crazy. Right? So it's like, like, like New York dance but like LA big nuts, right? Nastasia imagine like, Okay, so in New York, right? Imagine somebody shows up at your door. Ding dong. And two people are there with kind of a smile on their face. That would be Anastasia myself. No handle on your language at all these people who ring your doorbell they cannot communicate with you at all and yet they expect a drink we thought it was a bar we thought it was a bar in retrospect it was not everyone looked amazingly confused. There were a lot of people there conversation stop they took us upstairs to the attic to like an outdoor balcony thing like a sec like a second or third floor porch. Like a sunroom like like you know you don't have like some people have like on their second or third floor. They have like a little mini porch with like plants on it and like a couch. You're talking about? Yeah, yeah. And they gave us a bell. They gave us a bell. And then they they just kind of shrugged and walked downstairs. And we were like, thing, and then they brought us a drink. Best bar ever.

Why did you guys even say, Well, we were like, we didn't like once you're in you're like keep playing

Yeah, the sense of obligation and that yeah, definitely you gotta

wear these words. But what does what does this bowl gonna bring me?

Yeah, well, we're all trying to like, we're all trying to do some social dance and none of us know the footwork, you know what I mean? And like, we're trying to not be rude. They're obviously trying to not be rude. You know what I mean? And for us, it was a good experience. Because guess what, it wasn't our house. What a trip, we got to get someone to take us back to Japan. So about those Conroe grills, so what we're talking about people, you've probably seen them in a restaurant where they can't afford or they don't have the license to have like a real grill real woodfire. So what they do is they get these little things that imagine it's made out of like firebrick material. So it's that kind of yellowish beige color. And it's, oh, I don't know, like, smaller than a microwave bigger than a loaf of bread, but that kind of shape and it's surrounded by metal. And then it's got like holes in it for air and then a grill goes great goes over it. And you're supposed to put a small amount of like charcoal in it specifically, you're supposed to use Japanese bench Aton charcoal bench or Tom charcoal is just very fancy charcoal that theoretically smokes less so that you can cook with it inside because you gotta remember it you know, in Japan, they're coming from a culture where they're cooking the cooking and coal inside like all the time you know what I mean? Like so it's very fancy. I think Andy Ricker sells some tie bench baton style things that are like a lot, a lot less. I never used that mean, like a lot of chefs use it because they had to, it was always kind of expensive. And I just like lit regular lump hard wood charcoal inside and just said smoke be damned. You know what I mean? And that's always kind of been my attitude. Of course, you know, who hates smoke? My family in the house? Why is it by the way? Can I ask how many of you of the of the four people that are here? How many of you don't care when it's smoking in the kitchen?

I don't care. Yeah, I

don't care either. Wow.

doesn't care. Wow, Joe?

Yeah, sorry. I don't care either. Hmm. As long as I have an exhaust, it's gonna suck it out, which I do.

A lot of people have a very real, like, visceral reaction to smoke in the kitchen. I'm surprised because it's, it's usually more than half the people are freaked out by smoke and all this. This is why we're working together. Because we can all tolerate smoke in the kitchen. Yeah, yeah. Maybe that's it? Definitely. Anyway. Anyways, so how much do you say these, these grills cost?

So the medium sized one on Coron, which measures 21.3 in length by nine wide by eight. Hi, yah, is $280 and out of stock eta four months, so you gotta get on the preorder?

Yeah, look, it doesn't have that much retained heat. So I don't know how much retain heat, although it's true. If you're using small amounts of charcoal. If you're using kind of the portable thing that I had, which was extremely lightweight, it won't store any heat energy at all. In fact, it's built to do the exact opposite. So the nice thing about them is they will retain some heat and then they direct almost all of it up. So it's good for yaki to. I'm gonna say it's good isn't necessarily worth that kind of money, especially if you have access to another grill. Although I do like tabletop grills, don't you like a tabletop grill? Yeah. If you if you have a situation where you can go like outside have a tabletop grill, the Stasi, you're a fondue fan. Yeah. What do you think about tabletop grill? As like not in place of fondue, but like as like an also fun table thing? Yeah. Now as someone who actually used to go to Switzerland a lot, what do you think of oil based fun dues? I don't really like them. Because they're scarier because you don't like them. I just don't like them. So cheese and chocolate. Cheese. Just cheese. You don't like to talk with either? Don't care. Not a fan? No. Did you used to like it was ruined for you by the chocolate fountain or what? No. What? chocolate fountain? The chocolate fountain as a phenomenon. Oh,

no, I just don't like it.

Okay, I like the boiling oil one. But it's real dangerous. real dangerous. So dangerous. What do you guys think of the stinky bendy county like a brand new Kouta Yeah, yeah. Would you ever have you ever made it? No. Yes. Yeah. Long time ago. oil and butter just oil just butter woody just oil just oil. I like a 5050 split does that make me a bad man? No, it tastes good. Anchovies butter, oil and carrot

yeah

all right. So is that enough on the grill Have I mentioned what I think or not but works Yes. Sad to say bend a table is going out or is going out of business but they would like they're gonna sell you know they we worked with them at the at the old radio station. good people, good people. And so their their shtick was that, you know, Ben would go around and find like, you know, nice products like Anson Mills or Geechie boy or what else did they use to sell like Spanish preserves? Like what's the one that you liked? And he had the one you like the conserve us?

No, he didn't have those the Rahula ones, but he has really no, we got some good spices. We got some good Irisa

by the way, by the way, by the way. Well, I'll finish this remind me on those conservas. All right. So anyway, yet another victim of the pandemic. So he's doing warehouse clearance boxes, which he says is basically a hodgepodge of remnant inventory for insanely good prices. Now, if anyone else grew up in New York area, crazy Eddie was a an electronics salesperson. And he would like put a Santa hat on and scream about how crazy it were prices are insane. Like and he got arrested. Yeah, tax evasion. I think. He said, Yeah, well, I mean, you know, he made a lot of money and crazy Eddie, he's crazy. Yeah. So you know, it's like, crazy, Eddie, a lot of people have evaded taxes and going to jail for it. Wesley Snipes, for instance. You know, whereas these types of crazy Eddie in good company. Okay, so insanely good price. So for instance, for $65, you get $110, where the stuff plus another 20% off, if you call in? Why don't you tell them what's going on? There's a there's a code clearance.

Yeah, when you check out use the word, use the word clearance, all lowercase, and that should get you 20% off of what you are ordering.

But it's already been reduced. Right? It's like 20% off the already reduced price if if you take clearance, and he's got some good stuff. Yeah. My God, remember, Anastasia, when we got the boxes? And then we were like, okay, my favorite thing that we we used to have to do, right is that we used to have to, when I say favorite, I mean not, they would send us products, and they would give Anastasia some products and they would give me some products. And then the star sia had to say that she had cooked with the product. So she would just like make something up on the spot. And it would be just like, and then like, it would be completely random. She's like, I made a cold farro salad. And we're like, I'm like what? She's like, and I'm like, What did you and she's like, I chopped up tomatoes. And then I put it into the farm. I was like, Did you wait for the farmer to cool? Did you chill? It was their oil. She's like, I just mixed it all together. Yeah. Like it was so funny. Like, it was brutal. It was brutal. It was brutal. It's brutal. It's brutal. But you love Faro? So you could have said, Oh my god, I

think this was during this was during quarantine. And they were like, what fun things are you making with your family? And I was like, I'm alone in a lighthouse. So nothing.

I'm alone in a lighthouse. It's like there's a song there somewhere. Right? There's, there's a song somewhere. Someone right? I'm alone and don't da da da the stars who will get mad at me if I if I actually if and I'm alone in a lighthouse song shows up. Do that my son DAX believes that he is a reincarnated lighthouse keeper. Awesome. When he was very young, he came up to us apropos of nothing and said I used to be a lighthouse keeper. So spooky when he was like five, four or five, I used to be a lighthouse keeper and then walked away. And we're all like, well, that's strong. So one more one more strong DAX thing for those that can see the video. So DAX DAX, like, wouldn't understand when people were messing with him when he was really when he was really young. So like, some guy goes to some kid shows up at our house. And it's like, I know where you live I in a threatening way. And DAX goes where? And the kids like, What do you mean? He's like, Well, I want you to know exactly where I live. And then he goes like, he reaches up. No one knows why he did this. puts his finger under his eye, pulls his eye down. And that's it. And we're all like, Whoa, man. Dax is some hardcore dude. Just because I want you to know exactly where I live and poses like lower eyelid down. Roll like, don't mess with that kid. Don't mess with that kid. He'll take you out. All right. Oh, I know what so there's this thing this can serve us right so so John got obsessed at the beginning of the pandemic with the what's it called? Lebra hula lab Rahula conserve us which are like good but absurdly expensive tins of seafood. Right. And so he bought some he gave me one very nice. And then I saw a can that they hadn't ever had in the United States before baby eels? Now? A can of baby eels. Joke, two bytes. Two bytes this can have baby eels would be would be done. Two bites. I'm going to the store I call John. Hey, John. You ever had the baby eels? He goes, No, I've never had the baby eels. I mean, maybe I'll get a bit. I'll get one for Booker. He likes canned fish. Maybe I'll pick up one for John to hey, how much how much for the baby eel. $50 You know,

it was again $50 That can like how big Canada's talking like a tuna fish can Yes, get out of here.

And you know what most of it's filled with? Not baby eels, water, water, water. Water as the as the flexsteel guy calls it water. Yeah, crazy. So for any of you out there that have had the baby eels and can tell us why it cost so much. Just let us know. Matt Ronan wrote in via Instagram Hey, Mr. Arnold have a question about ag or clarification I attempted to make tequila Porter Mia monta with Jeffrey Morgenthaler his recipe. So this is like a strawberry tequila infusion thingamajig. The finished product was a beautiful shimmering red. Are you guys familiar with how do you pronounce it? Shimmer or Chimera? Chimera? Chimera? What do you try Mira Chimera stars? What do you have a shimmer? You're a shimmer? I think I am too. I think I'm also a shimmer. I like to have an even split fight anyway. So I'm gonna call it true miracle. Are we okay with that? Because I don't like the word miracle. Okay, I'm gonna call it a miracle. Are you guys familiar with the shine miracle colors? All right, you know how we have, you know how we have three different color sensors, three from cone, right? Red RGB, right? So this is awesome. So the way that you're what you do is, is you stare at one color. So for instance, Cyan, right, which is blue. You stare at it, stare at it, for like 30 seconds, don't do anything else stare at it. What it does is it fatigues those that cone does knocks it out, right? It fatigues it, then you instantly look over and you stare at an orange background. And what happens is is where you fatigued out your cyan, right? You now have a more saturated orange than is possible for you to see it's an impossibly saturated orange, because you've actually reduced like the way your body senses Orange Is this like combination. It's always been knocked down by this sensor. But because you knock that sensor down, you can see more orange, it's called hyperbolic orange. How sick is that hyperbolic orange. Got one more for you. I forget what you stare at. You stare at something. And then you probably yellow then you stare over at Black and you see a blue circle that is blue. But as dark as the black. It's blue as dark is black, Stygian blue. How sick is this? Very cool. Very cool. Color, you're on the air.

Hi, I have some tomatillo and peach kind of salsa. And I was hoping to be able to preserve that. And I was wondering if that's something that's safe to can. And if it would be shelf stable if I did so.

That's the candidate for sure. When you say can do you mean like pressure can mean you're gonna kill the texture. You're gonna need to hit it with a little calcium chloride before you try to count it so that it doesn't break. I'm assuming that calcium chloride will help it preserve its texture but you don't want to add too much calcium chloride

pureed so it's kind of more like a soft Oh, yeah. No, I'm not really worried about that.

Take a take a little bit. Oh, you don't have a pressure cooker?

No, I have like an instant pot but I couldn't generally just do canning like boiling it on a stove. So is is that not enough?

It depends on the acid level. Honestly, it depends on the acid level in your in your product and in the airspace and how much how long you process you can boiling water can anything that's high enough acid now two materials are high in acid and peaches are high in acid and by the way, John wants to talk about peaches in a minute. But so odds are it's high enough acid and it's definitely if you if you store it in the fridge I'm sure it'll be fine but I hesitate to say that you know it's also probably got a pretty high sugar dose to it as well. You know so but again, what I forget what the number is you can look up the pH and just test the pH of it. Or you know what you really should do? You should get a pressure cooker pressure cookers are awesome. You know, I don't think an instant pot is rated no one has. This is what I don't know why they don't make the Insta pot just go that little bit of temperature higher actually do know why but They could get around it if they wanted to. But yeah, I mean, like, how long do you want to keep it? How many containers do you have?

I have like, probably like, half a liter of. So, just like to be able to, not to be able to use like, during the winter or something like that. And not have to keep it in my refrigerator until

Are you a suburban person? Or are you suburban person or urban person?

Urban person? San Francisco,

small apartment,

no refrigerator. There you go. That was the other thing. I was gonna say. Like if I was living my suburban life, chest freezer, baby, everything's in a chest freezer. I mean, is it high acid?

I haven't tested it. So I don't actually know. But it's it was kind of like three pounds tomatoes that are roasted and then added to peaches to

look up the pH of the tomatillo and see what it is. Most of the materials that I have are pretty acid. I just look. I might feel fine with it. Especially like I might instapot it and just give you that little bit of extra oomph out of it, even though it's not technically good. But I just hesitate on air to tell you that it's okay. Because the consequences of it are bad if it's not high enough acid and something Grozny that's all.

Yeah. And what a wet jar. Be okay. In a instapot. Yeah. Versus a boulder.

Think so? Aren't they designed to can? Yeah, yeah, they're fine. Yeah, they're good. By the way, for the help in instapot in anytime you're going to try to use something even though it doesn't actually get hot enough to sterilize, you want to make sure to vent out steam. If you have any trapped air that's not steam related inside of a pressure cooker. It drastically affects your cooking time and sterilization. So just take a look at that. And see if there's an I've never looked up. Sterilize trying to do Kenny with an instapot. I'm sure there's all sorts of things over the internet telling you not to but I haven't actually looked at it.

Okay, thank you for the help. Appreciate it now. Good luck.

All right. So back to a beautiful shimmering red on this strawberry tequila. So Matt had the idea to Matt Ronan had the idea to increase his yield by blending the strawberry fruit along with the liquid and then straining, which left me with a large amount of very cloudy strawberry tequila. And then you want to add our clarify, listen, do not add our clarified tequila, don't do it. Don't do it. Do not do that. Why? Well, because first of all, you need to you can't get to kill a hot enough without boiling it off to hydrate the Ag bar. Because the Ag bar needs to be boiled in order to hydrate so then you're adding water to it. And then it's going to strip a lot of the flavor of the tequila and the stuff out. I've tried it. In other words, I've tried doing Strawberry. Strawberry, I forget what booze I used ag or clarification. And I was like, nah, this needs to be done with a centrifuge, what you should do is hit it with pectin X Ultra SPL, and then put it into a round container that is tall. And then just let it sit for like three days. And then gently pick it up and just go pour the clear crap off the top and do that three or four times and get progressively narrower cylinders until you know you can get the last little bit out and then cook with the last piece. That's what you should do. Yeah,

yep. Yeah. Real quick before you go into that your tails in the cocktail, unplug about 10 minutes to do it. All right. So everybody, on September 23, at 1pm, Eastern Standard Time, Dave, along with Derrick Brown, Ivy mix and Shannon Mustafa are going to be putting together speaking on a panel called rules of the creative Road, finding your own voice. This is an idea that Dave had a couple of months ago, and we've applied for it and got it successfully. And we got some really great speakers. And Dave, you want to give a little pitch as to what we're gonna be talking about?

Yeah, so the idea is, is that there's very few seven, I've been to a million seminars, given a bunch of seminars and tales of the cocktail. And a lot of times one of the subjects that comes up is, uh, how do you come up with new ideas? Or how do you stay creative? Or how do you, you know, how do you be creative in this industry? And I realized that it's kind of impossible thing to talk about, because you just talk about your own process and then somebody, then what are they what are they going to do with that? So my idea was, well, let's get like four very different people together who have very different approaches to creative process and try to figure out what the commonality is between those four people. So it's going to be for people so you know, Shannon and Ivy and You know, Derek and I are all completely different in how we approach cocktails, writing books, opening a bar program, developing a menu. And so but we, you know, we had a pre call to discuss it. And we all do share a lot of kind of core commonalities. And so the idea is trying to help you not necessarily try to become the next chanin or the next IV, but how to be the best you possible. That's the idea, that good pitch,

it's a great pitch. So go to tales of the cocktail.org and you can sign up for the conference. It's virtual again this year. Yep. A lot of other great speakers John Newbery AK a couple other people we know.

Not at the same time.

AKM John, not at the same time as ours. It came down to Barry on a panel together. That's

great. Yeah, yeah, but not at the same time. That was so yeah, that would suck parasitizing on each other. Yeah. Good. From old fashioned villain. My name is Paul. A huge fan of your work. I'm doing my best to try and bring your style cocktail to California, particularly the Ventura County area. Anastasia, talk to me about Ventura sighs What is it? Like? Where is it?

It's like Valley upper like Upper Valley like behind Malibu.

So close to the water.

No, behind Malibu. Malibu is on the water. Well, it extends into the canyons and then there's been

so it's like on the other side of Topanga. Yeah. Other side of the mountain. Yeah. So you can't see the water. Now you're in a bowl. Valley. So like where the valley girls are from?

Yeah, but I'm also from the Valley, which is on the east. A lot of valleys.

But not the Central Valley. I have given this kind of cocktail would work in Ventura. You're the one that knows everything about California and what's going on with the bar scene of it?

No, I don't. I didn't do anything when I was there. You're the

one where I said shoot it. Someone opened a bar there. You're like, no, it's terrible place that was our pre

pandemic. Remember?

I have a question and was wondering if you had infused caviar into a spirit before and how you go about doing it? And the second question was, what if you want to infuse Udi into a sparrow without a rotary bow?

Now my next question

was that it's so stupid. Why is that the guy guy wants to put the look whatever I would say that. You mean like I don't have any special technique. I would just soak it and see whether or not it tastes good. Honestly, like Guney needs to be so fresh that I think your best option would probably be to just do it the way that we used to do oyster what it was called those oyster shots. It's like a Bloody Mary with an oyster and what were those cold? Remember those? Do it like that just because none of those fish flavors are stable. You know I mean, so like maybe if you did it in a freezer you could get it to last for a little while but I think it's just not going to be stable and I would just do old old school none of none of the new techniques are going to help you get that stuff in there faster I don't think that's not my feeling anyway from Scotland distiller dedicated listener still interested in talking about consulting wanted to skip well that's not fair that's not for the thing. So question was what makes watermelon taste fake a centrifuge date concentrated in the road have app and it always tastes fake? Is that what concentrated water melon juice just tastes like? Or is there some sort of black magic or the dark forces that work here? I want to make a Wow holy crap that's watermelons terrible drink but I'm just failing and failing. Yeah, well the thing about a lot of things like when they are clarified lose their characteristic nests there's stuff because a lot of the stuff is in like the flavor is in the in the pulp and watermelon juice is just one of those things so like when like you just have to like the flavor of clarify watermelon juice which is entirely different and frankly more melon like so I don't like clarified watermelon juice that much because to me, it tastes more like a melon. And I don't like what melon. I like watermelon but not like melon like I don't like cantaloupe I don't like honey do. I don't like musk melon. It's the one thing that I'm like, I don't really like that. I can tolerate it. Well. You hate beats. And you and I both hate a particular beat preparation. People. People don't serve a giant undercooked beat that's going to sit around on a plate and stain everything that we on. Right says preach. Yeah, yeah.

Did you know there's an American girl shop across the street?

Well, that's it if I you know, what if I had known if, Joe, if we had been here a year ago before Amazon hosed our business, right? Like I would just walk over to the American Girl shop. What I'm investing in American Girl. Oh, what you mean you're gonna buy stock not all the dolls and dig them out of the boxes. You said I'm gonna take them out of the box. I gotta take it out of the box. Gotta show it. It's love stars. Yeah, it's a child's play thing sighs anyway, yeah, that was the old joke. I was just gonna take my life savings and dump it into American Girl dolls. Aren't they made up like my 125th Street? I don't know. I have no

idea. And I've no idea either. I thought you're going somewhere completely different with that. Oh, where was that gonna go something with the series on the American doll. And

I'm like, wow. Well, I'm glad you brought it up. Joe. Are we talking about this?

Listen, we said we were going to

all right Listen, people people is his Patreon Patreon people only we need to whip the whip people into a into a frothy lather on this. We are. It's no secret to anyone that's listened to our show before that Amazon took away a half year or more of our business. And we're in dire straits now at Booker index.com. And in order to get out of it, we are going to do much to anastasius chagrin. Another crowdfunding situation very soon, like within a month. And what we're going to make is a series All Pro Series All Pro. And what this series All Pro is going to do is it's gonna have a 50% Bigger front face, right? So 50% More searing area. And it's but it's the same size. So it's the same height doesn't make it any more tippy, go on your old torch. The reason we haven't released it already is we're also trying to make our own torch in the same amount of time one that's got the adapter on it the can't spin around. And also sheis tell them what we're working on that we'll know in the next week. We'll know by next week. Get ready for this people. We're going to make it work on Map gas. Now. Everyone's like, can I use Map gas on the Sears? I'll answer no. So the Sears all for those of you that you know, aren't privy to the other things in our life, it turns a torch into a handheld boiler, it's been knocked off by a million people like it makes me so angry. It makes me so angry anyway. So propane is the gas that it was built for. And if you use Map gas, not only does it just burn a hole straight to the Sears Hall, but the size of the Sears all is such that it can't even tolerate that extra heat. It just throws it away. It doesn't like actually put that extra heat on to your food. Right? It's kind of like the Glengarry leads, it's just like throwing them away using that extra heat. So, but in the series All Pro with a 50% Bigger searing area, it can use it and we've designed it to actually be more even in the series all 1.0 Even though the Pro has a bigger front face 50% bigger. So I've used a prototype, and it screams its greens, screams so we're going to be doing a Kickstarter, not Kickstarter, an indie Go Go Indiegogo in a couple of weeks, but we're supposed to be you know, like I say whipping you folks into a frothy lather about it. And delivered hopefully before the Christmas time. Right. And that's it. All right, are we out of time? I have 58 seconds left. By the way. Host again, Adam Adam and whiskey via Instagram wrote in in your book you write about Blender muddling cocktails with herbs. If I want to make basil infused vodka Can I use the same blender method to blend the basil into vodka and strain and store for later versus using a cvwd method? No. If you blender muddle and store basil anything longer than about 45 minutes to an hour and a half. It's going to start tasting, swampy Adam drain the swamp cooking issues