Hello and welcome to cookie issues. This is Dave Arnold, your host of cookies just coming to you live from Rockefeller Center at the newsstand studios for our very first recording at anastasis favorite place on the planet Earth. Rockefeller Center so she wants me just for this one we don't know where we're gonna continue to do it. I'm gonna say who's on the show in Rockefeller Center voice now we

have so no worries.

Oh, so No, but that's that's all I want from Rockefellers I mean one Okay, Miss Sassy have a hammer. Lopez. Are you doing stuff good we have John how you doing John doing great. I'm gonna pronounce it the way my phone pronounced Jean now. Great. And after his inaugural trip here with his we're not sure by the way we're testing everything out. So just so you know if you're hearing this testing everything out we have for engineer today. How you doing?

Hey, I'm doing great. How are you? Alright,

alright. But you can be you want. Whoever that announcer was you told me his name? He he doesn't ever pull back at the end? He wouldn't he wouldn't cut that the end off a haze. It'd be like Joe Hasan, right. See the difference? No pullback at the end. You don't pull back? You go

the full hazeh.

Okay. Joe Hasan, are you doesn't do that. Just that's not happy about it. He's never happy. No, he's Yeah, he's anyway. How you doing stuff? A how you feel? We're in Rockefeller Center for the first time ever.

It's cool. And yeah, it's pretty neat.

This is the first time we've recorded in a studio since the pandemic happened. And we're all vaccinated. So that's great. You know, we I think, you know, at this point, there's so many of us vaccinated that we're no longer Vax holes by saying that right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. All right. So for those of you that, don't know, we are now recording at a Rockefeller Center. By the way, a couple of things. We're not allowed to certain things we are not allowed to say in conjunction with Rockefeller Center, right, Anastasia, but yeah, like we can't make a pickle crock and sell it as like 30. Rock pickle crock. Right, right. Although Wouldn't that be amazing? Yeah. Yeah. How many 30 Rock pickle cracks we could sell? I guess I don't like fermentation.

No, right. No, that's John's.

John, would you have would you use a 30? Rock pickle crock? If we could do that?

If it was reasonably priced? Sure. Feeling that kind of name would carry a premium.

How much extra we how much? How much of a premium would you pay for a cooking issues? 30. Rock pickle crock.

And cooking issues, Brandon. I mean, I don't know.

Why would we do it without

extra? 30? Maybe?

Whoa. Oh, an extra 30? How much are you willing to pay for a pickle crock?

Now let's have paid 50 or 60? For my previous crux.

Well, how big a pickle crock. Is this?

The one that you'd be branding.

Now the one that you pay 50 to $60 for two quarts. two quarts. Yeah. How? How big is it? I'm assuming it's stoneware.

Yes. Ceramic cut off somebody on Etsy. Cheese.

That's where we'll be selling.

Etsy. Yeah, yeah, every. So okay. Again, we don't know when this is going to go when you're going to be hearing this. But right now, in this dossier, John and I are in the midst of fighting with every single selling platform on Earth. We've already you know, put out the had the problem with Amazon, which you guys are all familiar with. This is the first time you're listening. They've totally hosed our business and then eBay. Nastasia spends how long you spent setting it up?

I don't know two days. No, no. I

mean, like the getting make getting the fulfillment ready getting all this stuff? Yeah, like months. Yeah. So we get this fulfillment ready. We're like, because Amazon is still causing problems. We're gonna we're gonna sell on eBay, it's gonna be fine. Everything's gonna be fine. We set up this big, you know, thing with this company, this fulfillment company that is, you know, very good. And then we go live. And eBay is like, Whoa, you're selling too much stuff. We're turning you off. And they just flip the switch. And it turned us off, writes to us. So then I was on the phone because she wanted like a second set of ears because it was so crazy. They turned his back on again. And then we started selling again. And then I'm like, whoa, whoa, now we're turning you off permanently, forever, forever. The good news is you can't talk to a person. We've erased your account name. So you we can't even open a ticket to talk to you about it. And also, there's no, there's no, sorry, there's nothing you can do. There's nothing you can do.

I don't even know you couldn't open a ticket. That's crazy. They erase all our messages from Wow.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. The fun part for any of you and people have responded to me on Twitter about this. The real fun part is they then sent an email to everyone who had bought something saying that from Musk saying that we were scammers. And they did this all for the safety. The safety of their community, apparently. Yeah. Yeah, safety of their

right now we're selling on Shopify, which is real. I mean, we're selling on Sears all.com, through

through Shopify. But if any of you guys are investigative journalists out there, I think this is an interesting story, because the the head of our fulfillment company, the CEO of our company, said that they've seen this, like three or four times on eBay in the past couple of months. And we think also like our initial troubles in November with Amazon were based on some sort of attack basically. So there's all these scammers out there like a quote unquote, business people and remember anyone that sells a Sears all it's not us is is stealing our stealing, rip stealing our patents basically. And, you know, taking food out of my kid's mouth and preventing the Stasi from getting these geese out of her TP right. So

potentially even putting the user in dangerous to Amazon reviews said, yeah, people into the yard.

Yeah. And you're the reason that, you know, John's healthcare sucks. Okay. All right. It's you, you're the reason. So. So these these people, these terrible, vicious people are, they complain, they know, the algorithms that these big, you know, online merchants use. And they knock out their competition by complaining in a way that trips the algorithm functions for people like Amazon and eBay. And for a small player like us, they can knock them out and they can't be knocked out. Because we don't have the resources, we don't have an Amazon, if you make more than you remember what the number was, does how many millions you need to sell a year 20, it's above a certain revenue amount, you then get an actual human being at Amazon that you can speak to, that only gets fired once every two weeks instead of once every two hours. Right? Because it's been, as I said before, it's like when you call customer service at Amazon, if you accidentally get disconnected, that person's already been fired or quit. And so you need another another whole contact there. But like once you make enough money, you have a real contact. And the same at eBay. If you sell long enough, and you haven't enough sales, you get a real human that you can talk to. And presumably then you can get around the algorithms. But for small players like us, boom, you're toast, so they can't toast us on Shopify, as far as I know. That's not speak. So Oh, is there any sort of actual wood products here and knock on it? So anyway, so that's what's going on with us. So we're going to answer some questions. And we're going to answer some questions. We're going to just treat this as though it's a normal show, even though we're currently talking with at Heritage radio network, because we're trying to figure out how our ongoing stuffs gonna work, which is why this is not live right now. Right? And start soon. But for those of you that listening, we are going to set up a Patreon. How's that gonna work stuff? Do we know exactly? 100%? It's set up already. We set up Yeah, we just don't know exactly what we think is going to happen is this. We think that because it takes some time to edit and put the stuff down, we're going to if you sign up for the Patreon, you listen live and you get the code so you can call into us direct, right? And then we're going to put it up, edited. A couple of days later, we'll still take questions via email. And a Patreon is probably where the chat room is going to live. Right? Yes, yeah, Patreon is where the chat room is going to live. Yeah. And then we're also going to maybe post video to the Patreon of the episode and, you know, maybe some extra unexpurgated Anastasia. Well, Nastasia has been dying for us to do some nonfamily shows since since forever. She believes that all of you out there want to hear us curse like the sailors that we are in the real life. Yeah, you know, John grew up in Connecticut. So he's a real life like, you know, swamp Yankee sailor, he can curse like a like an old school sailor

wants to spend 10 years working in kitchens in New York City, but I had it a lot to

speak in the kitchens in New York City. What do you guys reactions to that? So the news of the week is is that Daniel Humm at 11 Madison Park decided to go all vegetarian, vegan and vegan at 11 Madison Park. What are you guys thoughts on? Why

but why are environmental concerns that is just like what the future of eating should be?

I look um, I would love to go and taste it. I'm sure it's going to be delicious. It already out. It's been announced. I don't know if the menus up it hasn't reopened yet. Right, John? Or has it? Don't

think so. It's gonna be reef 35 including tip

35 For vegetables.

Again, though, I've been cooking a lot of asparagus they cost more than most steak that I buy. So I've been buying that fancy bill, Dutch white asparagus. You know, I'm just going to put a seat. So my book that I'm shooting I'm doing in it has to be done by October so anytime a season rolls around, I have to get all the stuff in the season because I don't have another crack at it. So someone was like, Are you Going to do ramps I'm like, Nah,

but when you're is what about like, so you're just doing northeast season?

Well, that's the one that I can get. I'm not me I'll ship other stuff but like certain things, like only have one season in the world because like for instance, like white asparagus, the real stuff, I don't think that they do a flip version of it in the southern hemisphere the same way that they do it in Europe. And so it's like, if you don't get it, then you don't get it then same like rhubarb. Certain things you can shoot out of season especially because I don't know if you know this. You can't taste what they cook in a cookbook. You can't you can't taste it. So as long as it looks okay, it looks okay. That's That's an old trick I learned when I used to have to do food styling for people. Like you know, you know how many of those turkeys that you look at in the food styling shots are cooked all the way through zero? Because you know what the you know what the photographer doesn't want to do wait around for that Turkey to be done. You don't I'm saying? So it's like you just make the thing bronze you pull it out of the oven. You know? I mean, I've done it. But then the one time I had to I had to go outside of Atlanta and do a Thanksgiving shoot and offseason Thanksgiving shoot the turkey we did it for food styling. But the the person whose house it was wanting to feed it to her kid. I'm like, lady, you can't feed that Turkey to the kid that Turkey is poison. It's poisonous Turkey Do you like but it looks good. I'm like, that's the idea if poisonous, so yeah, so for that stuff. Anastasia, I can definitely just I can go out of out of season. Yeah. What kind of grill setup you have at the at your, at your place.

It just a trough grill actually,

trough? How large trough like can a donkey? No, no, like three feet by one foot. Three feet, three feet by one foot by how deep

like eight inches.

So it's like a small trunk smallest trough. It's like a gutter. They ever tell you about the in the hibachi style thing that was like an even smaller version like one like one and a half by one and a half by eight inches that I did in my house that time for Jen's birthday to ruin her birthday. Did you know that if you buy an off grant a brand one of those grills that you can actually get it hot enough to light the paint on it on fire? No. Yes, you can. It sucks. Especially when your wife has had exactly one request. You know what that request was? No fire. No smoke Don't ruin my birthday. The birthday Don't ruin my brain. Can

we? Can you tell the story of what happened last year? I mean, last week after 13 years. So

it's no, it's no surprise if you've seen pictures of me that I don't care what my hair looks like. Right? Me too. Yeah. But what we do like is we do like a good head and neck massage. Correct? Mm hmm. So if you like hair sheep, for Oh, because Are there any too cheap, John? back us up? Who's cheaper than the Stasi and myself? I can't think of anyone cheaper than you. Yeah, there you go. All right. So like we're the cheapest people on Earth. But if you like cheap and you like a head and neck massage, and don't care too much what your hair looks like, go to Chinatown. No, don't tell them where am I saying where but like, like the hair salons there are amazing. Like, they're amazing. So it's like, how much how much and stuff

I think it's like $10 or something for for what I get, which is hair wash, blow dry. And it's a secret place who've been going? Well, I went

to one place for like, for like 20 years, and then they moved locations. And when they moved locations, I was like wanting to stasis like you gotta try my place. So I go to her place. She used to go to my place back before she found her new place, right. But I don't know if you know this from listening to the show, notes dancing. I like when we're doing our own things we really don't want to see or talk to each other. And also, like my favorite thing about the hair salons that I go to is that it's zero communication situation. I do not speak the language of anyone else who's in the building with me at the time. And I love it. They say it's the best. I hate talking to basically anyone it's like, the worst thing about going abroad is not being able to make yourself known and the best thing about going abroad is not having to make yourself known. You know what I mean? So it's like, I show up. I have their like water okay, yes. Shampoo will change

the station for me when I when I come in when we change the station. They put it on? Like I think they put it on some type of California radio. Okay, you say that? No, I

Okay. Okay, here's John's not a spoiler. Here's a spoiler. Here's a spoiler for you, Mr. Garcia Lopez and I don't want to see each other during our hair salon things because I don't want to hear the English language and I don't want to see in this dossier. She does not want to see me. She calls me and says I'm going to this hair salon on Friday. Don't go on Friday. This is the level we've been going on Friday. I might be going on Friday. Don't go on Friday since we specifically don't go on Friday. Now.

We've been doing this for years to meet tell each other when Reagan

time there was a family emergency and we sent someone she sent someone to the barber shop to deal with me. I was like, What are you doing talking to me during the barber shop? Anyway, so like, she tells me like makes me swear on a stack of freaking Bibles. I'm not going to go to the salon on the Friday. I have a photoshoot as it turns out on the Friday, so I'm like, I'll go Thursday because I've got this like COVID wacky like you know, scientist hair going on. And I go on Thursday

that I'm sitting in the chair

she's sitting in the chair she says they changed the station I have to say it's the same station they always play it's the same station it's the same three freakin anyway horrible fake my siren song I always wear

Dave's voice from the chair and I tell my barber that man know that man know that man know, the barber says in Cantonese or Mandarin to the receptionist. God knows what he says. And that

they're speaking Mandarin. Yes. But like that, but my they try to get Dave out. She basically tells them to have some sort of molester some sort of like, like, like they should maybe call the cops on me or something. You saving me from there. She calls me from the chair on the chair. And by the way, I don't use my phone when I'm there at all, because why I don't want to deal with any other people who can communicate with me. So like, she calls me and she's about to be done. So she's like, I'm here. I'm like, what? This is entirely your fault, which you said. Yes, it was. She's like, maybe we could talk about the radio afterwards. No, maybe you can get the hell out afterwards. No, thank you. But it wasn't it wasn't no thank you. It was no thanks. No, thank you.

And then I had a tip them. So I had to go over to your lady while you were getting washed. And I said by Dave and you just gave me

this evil. Well, and that's before I knew that you would call me a you know, a molester. You know, before I was like some stalker who was stalking you at that place. He's Louise.

And then I tip them extra to let them know that I was still top, top doc.

Whatever man. If you want to get if you want to give your blow driest, what is the term for a blow driest? Is that a stylist? Stylist? I guess do you want to give them extra cash? That's that's on you. I'm happy that they I'm happy that they got

things to cheap. Yeah,

I texted him to let him know how much I tipped before he left so that he could do the same so that they knew where we were hell no. Yeah. Yeah. Friends, friends and quotation.

frenemies co workers. Okay, so should we do some cooking related questions to cook? Oh, by the way, you know what Anastasia is hoping for? So Oh, yeah. Yeah, so just looking at today. Tuesday's for those of you that don't know, Tuesday's are the Saturday Night Lives day where they do like a why right? All night long, all day all night. But the host shows up on the Tuesday and meets with the staff. Yeah. So the person who's the host is Anastasia is like, nice like your favorite person. He's

one of my favorite people. In terms of like,

what he's what he what Elon Musk. Nastasia ism is a musk melon freak loves a lot

of people hate him though. Like hate, or especially right now. I don't know why.

I'm not sure now, but they do. Yeah. Why now? I

think because he has a job on Mars. And do you know why Joe? No, I don't.

What are your feelings on the on the Elan? Joe.

It makes a great car battery. Yeah, yeah. Dave. Truck.

So funny thing about the car battery is is that lithium ion batteries. I know a lot about lithium ion batteries were anyway, can't talk talk about it. But like lithium ion batteries. Everyone worries about them being dangerous. And here's what's true. Once those suckers get to burn in, they get to burn in your I mean, these like, I'm not gonna I'm not going to talk about the I think a lot of people are pissing them now in China because there was a huge kerfuffle about the way he treated. One of the customers who wasn't happy about the brakes, the brake specs, and he was as dismissive of them as he is of everyone over here only that doesn't play in China. And so he had to apologize, I think to the Chinese government because a huge segment of their market is in China right now. Tesla's market and then right after that was the crash in Houston where the truck the car immolated itself after hitting a tree, and the claim was that there wasn't anyone at the driver's wheel, but it's contested. Nords no one knows what the hell is happening with it. So maybe that's why but Anastasia is, is basically just constantly searching out the window for Elon Musk to be walking through. This

would not be the building he would be You never know maybe they, you know, they

take they take them through a separate building. So that you know, he doesn't, you know, yeah can be when someone right before us right before we started recording I was like it's Elon Musk in the stars. He was like little turned around. Yeah, I gotcha, whoa, boom, boom. All right. Questions MEC. All right. So from Alex via email. Hey, question for Dave. I'm interested in hearing more about the computer programming work I do with Arduinos and etc, etc. What do I use a custom code to do in the kitchen? A well, like when I'm developing products, like for instance, when I developed the spins all the senator views like I had to write some code to try to make it work so that I could show the factory in China how I wanted it to operate. I do the same thing with the current project that I'm working on that we can't talk about. Also, you know, I've, I've had, I do, whatever, I do a lot of random stuff, right, Anastasia, does a lot of random stuff. Most of the stuff that I do for kitchen, I use off the shelf controllers for so not like Arduinos like most of the stuff I'll use like, like the most complicated thing that I used on a rat on the regular and in my kitchen was the the four controller oven where I controlled the deck and all that stuff separately, but I don't do a lot of actual Arduino work for the kitchen. I was built for Wiley, my one of the first things I ever built for Wiley was a ko extruder where it put one color and flavor of of goop inside of another color and flavor of goop and then set them into spheres. So that took a lot of programming and a lot of work. But he never liked it. You know why stars? Because you remember, you remember the old went back when scarification was a big thing? Yeah. So it made Paisley's like, they looked like little tadpoles. And he was like, Dave, can't you make them into perfect spheres. And like Wiley now, like, you know, I'm building with with with stuff that I'm finding on the street. And like, you know, now he's like, I don't like the tadpole shape. Mike Wiley. It's a freakin feature. It's a tadpole. No one else has tadpoles. You'll be the only person with tadpoles. He's like, nope. And then phoron Adria got a co extrusion machine that was built for like the pharmaceutical industry that cost like, you know, you know, 100 grand, or whatever it was, and they gave it to him for free, because that's how you're abroad. And then while he was like, manage thing, what was the grimace?

What do you understand why they wouldn't want tadpoles? Because that looks a lot like sperm. And that's what I think it's like, I don't know the plating technique where you put the goop and then you spin the plate and get the tail. We used to call that little spermies

that that was the technical kitchen term for a little little spermies. Is it actually little with the TTL E or little little with when apostrophe probably with the apostrophe? A little little spermies? Oh, wow. Okay, then. I think if you don't want to go to sperm round, if you just put in someone's mind Paisley's. Yeah, and I mean, is Paisley that shape? Or is Paisley the whole pattern?

Thing is the whole pattern. The whole pattern? Oh, really?

So the individual unit of a paisley is a spermy?

Airy? Yes. Could be or mitochondria?

Or I don't know, I don't know, you know, all the mitochondria come from the mom. So there might be that I'm sure there's mitochondria in the sperm cell. But none of those things get transferred to the egg are 100% Thank God of my mitochondria, my mom's nerve, and I'm sure my dad's mitochondria are fine. He's healthy guy. You know what I mean? But like, yeah, that's why they can trace like, that's why they can trace through the mom's lineage with the mitochondrial DNA. Really? Yeah. Fun fact.

And the bases kind of look like the contractile vacuoles.

Hmm. Except for if I could get the actual vacuoles I could have made him more spherical. While he would have been pleased with me instead of you know, kicking me out of his restaurant. Alright, so I think I answered that question. Is that is that an answer, John. So that was fun, deleted. So, Joe, this is your first time with this. What happens is, is that John gives me the questions. And then if he's not satisfied with my response, I see the question again the next week, and I'm like, didn't I answer that freaking question? He's like it not to my satisfaction. And then if I answer it too much dissatisfaction Nastasia gives me crap. Yeah. Hey, now that we're now that we're hearing, hey, you know what starts now that we're like live, you can have an actual like, one of those like, no buttons, no, where you can just like, like, you know, yeah, turn me off. Yeah, no, no. Yeah. I know. Last week, she tried to check this out. So here's the rule, see what you think of this rule. So the rule is, is that I give two minutes to all the questions people ask, too. So then, sometimes, though, I'll go off on something every single time I'll go off on a tangent. So the question is, if I say something it's unrelated During the tangent, does that count against the person's to or not?

I would say no, but that's like an additional segment clock.

So we need like a tangent clock. How many stop watches and stops? You're gonna have Yeah, that's crazy. That's busy. Like we're like, we have like Inception level tangents here. Whether it's like, tangent inside of a tangent inside of a tangent. Yeah. Somehow we almost always make it back to the original question before they turn the microphones off. Yeah. Okay. Next. All right. Michael Tocqueville wrote in let me say, I've been a fan of the show and stuff. So you're gonna need some muffs?

This is the guy that did the vegetarian book. No,

no, don't take it. Michael Harlan took two different interesting now interesting there. Yeah. He said, Well, your greatest video which is the office Nacho video giver when I was working with you, I don't know why I was Yeah, because Rebecca said that because you probably just didn't want to be around me. Probably. That was the most well known for you there. Only Rebecca I have never gotten the dirty looks that I got. Ever since that shoot, we went to complex which is so complex. You know, the hip hop sneaker website has a food website called First we faced so I go to do a shoot there. And they have me make nachos from scratch from zero in someone's lunch in there at their desk without telling the two co workers on either side that that's what I'm doing. So I start I start heating, an EC whip or an ISI like a with a blowtorch up to very very dangerous pressure levels with a blowtorch next is guys desk giving warnings like oh hey this is completely not cool and this might blow up FYI and then so I start getting the dirty looks with that they want to pull out the liquid nitrogen in the liquid nitrogen is pouring all over the guy's desk because they haven't been make some sort of dessert. I thought this guy was going to punch me in the face. Yeah, I don't think that's my fault though.

That sounds like a Rebecca thing.

I'm not gonna blame oh by the way, by the way Oh, sad program note she's not dead she's not dead. Rebecca The Boondock Toggler has moved on to to dangle other pastures she's she's took a full time job toggling somebody else's bones

she said she is still do events in LA with us which why she was released thing.

Once this pandemic is fully over Anastasia is going to force us to do a bunch of sub parties out in LA they're going to be awesome. We have you already copyrighted sub party.

No, remember, we tried it was well, we tried to get the website but it was $500. And he says too much.

Yeah, we're not worth it. We don't deserve it.

We throw the best parties in LA. I don't know why we do

that we false. We wait what

did the last person say when they went to the Houdini? I don't know what that was.

I don't because it made no sense. We had Harold McGee dressed as a fortune telling robot. So yeah, we had it was just it was it was a it was it was it was crazy. All right. So Michael wants to know I am designing a system. A carbonation system. Alright, a seltzer system. Alright, and sassy. Are you okay with it? Yeah, just start your clock. I'm designing a system and have a mic. By the way. Does the clock start after I'm done reading the question. Yes. Yeah. All right. I have a McCann carbonator that's the one that everyone uses. I am in a house. And we're going to put most of this stuff in an unfinished basement under my sink instead of actually under the sink. But I don't want to use a cold plate and an ice machine. I would rather use a flash chiller. Do you see any issues with issues with this approach? Can I use an under sink water chiller? Would that work? I feel like everyone had reached out to as different answers ie the caveman, which sounds like a Simpsons character caveman tries to sell a two a $2,000 setup. I just want the right answer. Appreciate your thoughts. All right. Listen, I looked at the caveman's website. What they're doing look at standard house pressure is roughly between 40 and 60 pounds per square inch. You're and the fittings for those units are meant to operate at those pressures. When you're running a carburetor properly. That's carbonating water, you're running it up closer to 100 Which is why there's all of these warnings on the thing about hoses flying off of these damn things when you're using them. And if you've never been in a situation where a carbonated water hose flies off under pressure, it is as we say in French a treat. How do you say it's a treat and Frenchmen who don't know they'll just say like say my radio or something I'd say remember your signature please never use Yeah, there you go. It's like freakin Versailles. It's like water everywhere. It's like and all your co2 is getting leaked and everything in your house is getting ruined. So I would make sure that the unit itself can put up with the pressure. Make sure that everything inside the unit It is stainless steel. And make sure even though the caveman says not to worry about it flared fittings, flared fittings, buddy are going to be your friend. Lastly, the last thing I'll say about it is that the one way you could do it if you don't want to use an ice machine and and all of that is just by what's called a cold bank, look up cold bank, where it's basically a cold plate with a compressor unit that keeps the stuff cold. That's the way a soda machine runs in a restaurant, right? The one that you walk up to and go. Maybe unclear on what I'm talking about, as you know that so you can hook one of those up without using they're awful without using that awful like, dispenser that they use. You can use a cold bank so look for cold banks that well How was I 13 seconds

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Alright, Isabella Julio wrote in. Thanks for last. Oh, thank you for last week was great to finally get a question and what question Is she asked? I don't remember. I can look. I wanted to ask what Dave's favorite recipes are for Fresh tofu skin. Seen it can be braised in things, uses noodles, etc. And also dressed as you would noodles for a cold salad. Cool salad. I liked that. I liked that.

Tea. I know what you mean.

Yeah. If, if you don't say, if you're gonna say salad, what is it? Green? It's called? Yeah, it's called salad. Do you know what I like? Do you like a German composed salad? I don't know what that is. It's like the plate with like, little, little freaking things all over. And then you can mix up yourself. It's nice. It's nice. But anyway, a salad without any modification is a cold salad. Right? It's like a sandwich is not open faced. Unless you say open face sandwich. You don't have to say a closed face sandwich. I think the same holds true for the salad. Don Joe, where are you when? The grid grid? Yeah. All right. So I'll answer the question now, Greg, because I Yeah. Okay. When you make your own one, I'm assuming freshmen assume you're gonna make your own. I highly recommend that unless you do that. It's a pain in the butt to do it. But it's awesome. Right. What I recommend you do is you just eat them, just get some dipping sauce, keep them warm, eat them warm, don't try to do anything that's going to gild the lily because you're going through all the work of making the Fresh tofu skins. So just make some nice dipping sauce and try to appreciate the difference. Because as you will you have the soy milk right, which is a rich soy milk for tofu skins, you have it in a relatively large flat thing and you're pulling the skins off. As you're pulling the skins off, you're depleting the protein, and the different things that are in the soy milk. And so they change they change in color, like they go reddish as you as you pull them out, they change in flavor, they change in texture, they change in thickness. So until you start doing this a lot, the only recipe I would do is to like you know, salt them and eat them with a nice with a nice dip fresh so you can get a feel for it. And you know, frankly, that's that's all I ever do with them because it's such a pain to make the same way that when I make Fresh tofu, all I do with it is eat it with some light sauces and some like you know accompanying the crudity or some crunchy stuff, because I want to highlight the like kind of the kind of fleeting fresh flavors that you make the tofu now if you own an infinite amount of them, then you know I like layer after layer of Fresh tofu skin with crunchy stuff like sauteed mushrooms and scallions and whatnot flavors wrapped up into a tube with some sauce over it and you eat it. That's delicious. That's how that's how I do it. But anyway, so yes. Okay.

I told her we're gonna Brooks's cookbook too. Yeah. Because he does so much refer him

with fresh or see I think most of his stuff. rehydrated. I don't know. I think he's mainly using like rehydrated UVA, like that you normally buy like the fresh one that's never been dehydrated. I think it's kind of a, I think of it as kind of a different kind of an animal. Marty bodycote wrote in. Hey, Dave, I have a question. I think that you might have the answer. I constantly hear bartenders talking about scaling up cocktails, and the danger of scaling up bitters. The idea is that if I made one Manhattan with three dashes of Angostura I wouldn't make two Manhattan's with six dashes, it would have to come down to four or five dashes, or come down to four fifths of the number. Have you experienced this phenomenon? And is there a reason behind it? Or is it pseudo batching? Okay, listen, I think the problem is is that it is cocktail recipes that are done in a single dash is then when people try to scale up to like a lot of dashes. The effects tend to add some Miss Miss. Miss, what am I miss scaling or miss representing how big a dash is, tends to be a problem. So like, you know, if two dashes is too much, or how many do you put in? That's a lot of dashes. My friend. How many dashes? three dashes. See, I think that's your main problem right there. I would have started with two dashes. You do two dashes. See you're already over dashing You're in Manhattan. That's your issue there. Right. So the third dash is like once you start going even higher. And also think about this, if you're doing dashes, is your last dash really the same as your first dash, your first dash is probably an abbreviated dash. Why? Because you're worried about spilling stuff everywhere. So you're a little tentative with that first Dash. And then your second dash is really good. And your third, you're pulling back a little bit, so you probably only have two real dashes. But if you're dashing six dashes, you got your tentative dash, and then you have 1234 solid dashes and then your last tentative dash. So you've actually over dashed by a lot. What I do, if we're batching is we're batching in the Angostura by the ounce. And I have not noticed that there's any difference between the amount that you need when you're doing, you know, three bottles of Rittenhouse one bottle of Carpano. And I can't remember whether it's three quarters of an ounce or an ounce of angle at that point. But it's no difference. And if you do the math based on so if you sit there with a Dasher and go that bit for 50 dashes and count how much that weighs and do the division and you do that three or four times to get the average dash. It doesn't. That number is correct, no matter how you scale it so it has to be something with how you're operating the actual Dasher. Good. How was I? How was I? Five seconds. Oh man, I'm on fire. Man. What do you think John?

Great. Hopefully it lasts more than today.

Oh, geez. You know what? You know what? Fair?

I mean, it just helps cut down on the five pages of questions we have.

Oh my god. Wow. So harsh. Also, we're not sure in the in the in the future life, how this is going to work whether we're going to do like an extended version with with unexpurgated and unedited for the Patreon that might have more questions. I'm gonna

say to people when they're like, I don't want to pay for Patreon. What the hell?

I don't know, what am I gonna say?

I don't know. I'm asking you.

I'm asking you.

What are you gonna say your customer service? $5. I'm

just gonna say that's the way it is. But it's also unreasonable of them to expect like the amount of people that ask you questions. You know, it's a very generous free service that you've been providing for 10 years. And I think it's yeah, it's $5 a month.

This thing's that song some things will never change. That's just the way it is. Henley, Don Henley at data lane, they leaned in Lean. So things will never change the length, the length, but this is changing people so heavily

for pizza for 10 years. And now we're like, you know what? We

worked for pizza and not even pizza for the last year. No pizza for us. Yeah, we don't deserve it sauce or we thought we didn't deserve it. But we do. Here's what you get for your jump rope. That no one wants to jump rope. Joe, let me ask you a question. Yeah. Would you pay extra to not receive a jump rope in the mail? Absolutely. Yeah, me too. Yeah,

I paid even more more extra to not get glitter in the mail. Oh,

you know what? It's interesting question. You talking about the glitter bomb. You're talking about this MIT guy.

I got hit by glitter bomb from years ago. Yeah, but we have a friend who's notorious for putting glitter in her like her greetings card.

Oh, she's but you were you didn't get hit by a glitter bomb because you're a Porsche pirate. No,

no, no, no, no. It's just a weird kind of promo thing I got in the mail my wife opened it up and like the kitchen the dog everyone was covered in glitter. Oh,

brother. Oh, yeah. Well, I saw a couple of weeks ago you have no way of knowing this but a couple of weeks ago we were asking does have you guys heard glitters canceled you know glitter is canceled. No, I don't apparently you know, fish you know regardless of what you might see on you know, what was that Will Smith movie where he was a fish regardless of that movie there's no disco fish out there. You know what I mean? Like they don't like all the glitter in the in the ocean apparently. Get this beacon a porch pirate. So there's a park near my house. Right? It's on fourth between Forsyth and Christie. It's like there's something's something Roosevelt. It's like a I forget her name some someone Roosevelt Park. And it was built because at some point in the early 20th century, they knocked down all the tenement houses that were there. Some very famous bars were in that in that line. The triple Deuce was in that line, a whole bunch of really famous bars were in that line. Anyways, so there's a park there, and it's become over the past pandemic year. Now that people are playing outside again. It's bagged. It's bag stealing Central. Like my son DAX got his bag stolen there. But the thief thank God is so old that he doesn't understand modern technology. So DAX goes y'all to his friend. Yo, give me your Give me your phone, gives a phone traces his iPhone walks the two blocks over to where the guy is sitting on the porch going through taxes back oh my god and taxes like what the hell, man? He's like, what he's like, as my bag. He goes, Oh, that's yours.

Oh my god.

It's actually like, Well, it's certainly not yours. Yeah, so like, yeah, so you guys bad and then and then his friend. Two days later got his bag stolen from that same park. Same guy. different guy. Funny story, which for some reason, Dax won't let me tell you hilarious story of DAX. Let me tell you really? Yeah. I don't know why he won't let me tell it to you. But it's hilarious. So, the point is, is like, Who knew that this was become this area was going to become like the bag because bags thievery when I was growing up in New York, you didn't put your bag down. But we'll How do you play basketball? If you don't put your bag down? We just didn't do that. You didn't even put your bag down anywhere ever. Right? The assumption was if you blinked it was gonna get stolen. gone. It's gone. Joe, right. You're in New York. Yeah, you don't you just don't bring a bag. You don't bring a bag? Why would you bring a bag? Why do you think we have pockets? So you put stuff in your pocket? You don't bring a bag. Now everyone thinks oh, New York safe. I can bring a bag I can put it down. We're like halfway to the Netherlands where we leave bikes without locks. No. Now when I was a kid, they if you didn't like double lock your bike that sucker was gone. People used to walk around with like, with like, Freezy sprays to break people's lock bike locks off and take them away. Remember this? Anyway? How are we going on there? We weren't even talking about that. tangent.