Hello and welcome to cooking issues. This is Dave Carroll, your host of cookie issues coming to you a pre recorded we hope this is the last time we're coming to you not live. We're coming to you from Newsday in studios at Rockefeller Center our brand new location for the cooking issues podcast joined as usual with Mr. Asita hammer Lopes. How're you doing? Good. Yeah, we got we got John. But he's we're all together which I really love doing that John behind me how you doing John doing right? Yeah. So much better doing it. Right. So Joe Hasan, engineering booth over here. How you doing, Jeff? Hey, I'm doing great. That's the last little bit of the Rockefeller Center voice and keeping for you to start he

know Yeah, he should just always do Joe's name like do you do it like that?

i It's a good name. Like for that it's the right number of syllables. You know what I mean? Like some of the ones that it's not the same announcer anymore. Right? But like if there's a lot of syllables are not enough, although some some

it's gotta be a one syllable. First Name two syllable last name because Well,

Michael Che works. Like it's hard when it's like a lot of a lot of syllables. And they have to carry that level of intensity across. Murrayville assume you're long. You know what I mean? Yeah, that's her name. Right. Alyssa? Lewis and Melissa. Sorry, apologize. Anyway, Anastasia loves being here. Especially on Tuesday because she keeps looking out for to see what they can see some of the people but they never walked through here

right now. Right, Joe?

No, I never seen but you don't really care do you? Do. I mean? Yeah, I would if it was someone that I really enjoyed. musician, who do you really enjoy? If I saw like Liam Gallagher, or something like that sounds stupid. That would be like,

and would you? Would you be I wouldn't see him or would you punch him? Are you are you a Gallagher Brothers hater or, like you can love their music and hate them? Like for instance, like Michael Stipe giant douche. However, Rem I like the music. Okay, wait,

if Michaels they wanted to come on the show because he's a food person that he likes food. He would say no,

you're saying no. I wouldn't say no. I will be polite because I'm a huge fan of the work you do. And I'm saying like I'm a fan of the of the man. But he's a well known douche.

You're definitely a well known Well, is

he really? Yeah. Huge douche. Right. What does he do? I only

met him once. And he was a huge douche. But save. In retrospect, he was actually right. Here's the things like a lot of times, a lot of times people like are right, but in the wrong way. Does that make sense? Yeah, so like, I was in college, this was so like they had already REM which is a band for all you young uns out there, like REM had already come out with what I consider to be the core of what made them like a great band, like they'd already done like, you know, don't go back to rockville and like all that early stuff that like only southern people listen to, like, you know, the Virginia kids listen to, they just broken out and become kind of huge national. This is 1989 or, and they showed up at the school with K RS one from Boogie Down Productions. And at the time, I didn't know much about K RS one, but I had spent a lot of time listening with my buddies to REM. And he was like, I'm not here to talk about me. I'm here to talk about Karis one. And I was like, douche. And then and then I was like, no attitude. And we were all like, there. It was like, it wasn't like a big thing. It was like it was like a like a room with like, you know, 1520 people in it were like walking around and we're supposed to talk to each other. It's one of these kinds of situations, right? And I was like, and you know, we were all playing music at the time as well. I was like, Oh my God, you went from being like this kind of like small college band to going national. You know, what was that? It was that transition? Like, what was it like? Because all of my friends at the time were interested in that same exact problem that they had just gone through, you know, and I mean, I wasn't trying to like, you know, get any secrets. I was just curious kind of what they was like, just extending a piece of paper and the turn away and left. I was like, douche. I was like, man's a douche. And then like, but music great. In fact, I owe I owe Michael Stipe, my marriage. Because I, I went on this date with this woman. This is literally the day, two days before I started going out with Jen, who I'm now married to. I go out with this with this woman on a date. And she was like, I really like I really like rem and like, I also like REM she's like, I love Michael Stipe. I was like Microspikes such a douche. He's like he wouldn't be to me I would like I'm like this is over. This day. It's over. Goodbye. And I left and then two days later started going off again. And that's it here it is history. So thank you, Michael. Thank you Michael step, by the way. For those of you out there. You're never going to do this. I'm the only If you did this, I actually met that person. And I did not know she was a Michael Stipe fan. And I met her drunk at a party. And instead of doing anything, I gave her my number. And I said, I'll call you when I'm sober. We'll see whether this is going to work out. And luckily, it didn't. And that's a good, it's hold back, hold back. You don't want to have to deal with the State fan the next day. You don't say and you don't say instance, you're like me, you the same way

you don't know. I'm like you. And then I'm not like you when you say I'm not like you. Which we're not gonna get into that right now.

I don't really understand what you're saying. Yeah.

But I will. I'm going to eviscerate you after the show, actually, about what what we're just talking about. But go on and see the questions.

So what about Michael Stipe?

No, just do the questions. Alright. So

let's, before we do the questions, for those of you that don't know, if you're hearing us, I don't know how you're hearing us because we're not coming through live. This is one of the special secret Patreon. Well be Patreon. Only we think for a little while and then it will go live as part of the record. We're still negotiating with other people. So if you're hearing us it means we figured this out. And I'm glad you're listening to us, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Also, when Joe Joe's classic question to us when we're here. Well to John, really? He never He doesn't care what Anastasia has. He wants to know what John's had for breakfast? It's become a little bit of a running thing all two times. Yeah. So I mean, two times, you know, two steps to run. Yeah. You know, as long as as long as you you know, you're kind of not like heel toe, heel toe. Two steps is all you need. Yep. So, what did you have for breakfast last time?

Dunkin Donuts? I think blueberry glazed donut and strawberry frosted donut. Unfortunately, with sprinkles. Oh, unfortunately,

with sprinkles sprinkles. You're at no sprinkles, man. No.

I don't know. Yeah, I don't like to touch. I mean, I like sprinkles on other things, just not on my doughnuts.

You like sprinkles on other things? Okay. Did you know Are you familiar with the Krispy Kreme scam that they have not scan. But do they have gone? Yeah,

vaccine and goes every day isn't the line really long?

I don't know DAX. Like, here, like a phone app doesn't go here. He goes down somewhere. I don't know. And so he goes by gets Krispy Kremes every day. They gave him a hat the other day. He's go so off and he came home and Krispy Kreme hat. That's cool. That's pretty great. Yeah, yeah. Anyways, also DAX comes to me the other day. And I know I'm going against my relatives and everything he goes, do not have a G or an N in it. Unlike both DAX its dough as in it's made of dough and it's in the shape of a freaking not like you put on a boat. It's a dough freaking nut. Not a do not where the heck would do not come from what would where a deal and UT come from? Like, where would that word just drop out of the frickin sky. It is made of dough in the shape of a freakin nut. It is a doughnut. Obviously, but the thing that x did that really ticked me off was was G oran N What? On what world is donut spelled with a G without an N? Yeah. Yeah. To dough hut. Ooh, must start that business. What do we sell the dough hut. Now you had a dough hut? Yeah, a flyer was a dough. Hey, do you see this new thing someone wrote a paper on, you're gonna hate this so much ready to hate something. So they made this new pasta that they engineered a pasta in the pasta is flat. And they engineered little ribs into the pasta, so that when you cook it, it goes from flat to a curled shape. Okay, so like, I don't know why you need this, but it makes like little boxes, or it makes like little half tubes out of flat sheets. But I mean, I don't really understand. I don't know whether it tastes good. That's not important. But here's what's funny about it to me. In the paper in a scientific paper they're like, as sustainability becomes more important things need to pack into finery a smaller and smaller places. So it's like this fake argument about trying to be more sustainable by having the pasta curl as you cook it. Instead of kindness how much energy time and thought they've put into making a pasta that goes from one shaves. I want you to say we're interested in making something that's fun that curls up when you cook it. Wouldn't that be more? Yeah, when that'd be more also. separate question. Sorry is ticking me off John. When you buy scape, right? Have you ever bought skate where they rip the skin off? But they leave the cartilage winging?

No. Yeah, me neither. Yeah,

I went to the fish store for Mother's Day. Jen was like, I want skate. I'm like, Okay, I haven't made skate in a long time. I'll go to get skate. So I go to get skate. And I hate shopping for fish during the pandemic because it's that awkward moment where I'm going to pull my mask down and smell the freaking fish. You know, I'm talking about guys. It's like you need to smell especially something like a skate which can go that like iodine, the ammonia, ammonia like that ammonia smell So I'm like, I'm going to do it but I feel a little bad you feel bad doing that, John.

He, I mean, I've never done that at a fish store.

Really? Really? You just take their word for it and it's good.

I try to go to only fish stores where I trust what they have. I mean, yeah, I don't know like what if you like so what happens then? If you find it smells off like they put it back in the case or do

I don't care what they do with it as long as it doesn't come home with me. Joe speaking of this, since John only goes to very nice fish stores Anastasia only gets things like mustard when she flies in her private jet to places like Belgium. Can we get new standard studio monocles? Is it possible to get like monocles for these guys because, you know, and like maybe Mr. Peanut top hats for them because of the very fancy Pinky out life that they like to live with a monocle? Yeah. And we're gonna get some monocles have a red tint. Yeah, we're on row row looking through the world through rose tinted monocles. I

like it. Anyways, we were on Jon's breakfast.

Oh, hold on. We're not there. We're good. We're gonna make it back. Remember, that's how this works, how many years? So they serve me. I was like, I look at the skate. I'm like, can you fillet for me because I don't want to bother doing this. And he's like, it is filleted. And I just looked it up. There's a giant ball and running through it. I'm like, and I was like, You know what, forget it. And then I had to go. I haven't had to take skate wings off the bone in a long time. It's not hard, but I don't really like doing it. Do you like doing

it? No, it's

not. Alright. I don't. It's not fun. It's not fun.

And like, I was looking at all of the skate wings, because there's the way it works, people skates a cartilaginous flat, kind of like a disc shaped fish. And they cut the two kinds of wings off. And if they leave that, you can see a little bit of where the body was in the middle. And you put your knife you cut along and you cut them along the wing and you lift it. So there's four sides to it that you take off two big ones and two little ones anyways. So I was like, looking at the cartilage thing. And I don't think there's anything you can do with that is there John? We skate doesn't make great stock. You could make a stock but it doesn't make great stock. It's not like a snapper, or something like this. And I don't think you can crisp it up Japanese style and chew on a Kenyan.

You have no I do. Yeah. I haven't tried to prank them. I don't necessarily. I think that might work.

I pitched it which is probably done but I had so much else to work on that day that I didn't want to do. Okay, back to your breakfast. So donuts spelled with a Dunkin style. Yeah. And then what do you have today? captain crunch crunch berries. Oh, they before the show. You couldn't remember the name of crunch berries. You were like with little like colored balls in it? Or?

I looked it up before the Citrine sound smart. And yes, you just Yeah. Thanks.

Yeah, yeah. Are you familiar? My, my family were very familiar with all of the different Captain Crunch. Are you familiar with? Whoops, all berries? Yeah. No, yeah. It's just a box of crunch berries. And they tried to pretend like they did it by mistake. And so you're getting some sort of limited edition. So they're like, Oops, all berries. We I know we've had this discussion before. I don't know whether it was at newsstand or you know, elsewhere but I find that Captain Crunch excoriates the top of my mouth in a vicious way to shreds

Shona Yeah, sounds like home toast. Yeah, yeah, like debt from the from Denny's. Yeah. Danny,

Danny story, Anastasia, probably Denny's used to do an all you could eat. And I showed up. And I just kept on eating and in the server. She was like, I'm pregnant and you're making me physically ill how much food you're eating. I was like, Listen, I I mean, get a different job and bring me more pancakes. You know what I mean? It's like, you know, whatever. Anyways, okay, so I'm assuming that the crunch berries were ripping the top of your mouth apart. So you had to wash it down with what?

Well, milk but then also have a chocolate covered and Timmons donut.

Now, first of all, enter means in my family, I tried to enter. There was an intimate contest. We talked about this. There's an intimate contest to tell your intimate story and I can't believe I didn't when you were going to win a year supply of intimates which in my house is an infinite intimates. I like the intimate with the little balls on top we call them rabbit turds because they will kind of like rabbits as a brush with the sugar there. Yeah, yeah, and those little turd things on top love them love them. And my family now we buy the chocolate sampler which is chocolate covered chocolate. Rabbit turds chocolate glaze that's like that. Those are the money. That's the money isn't one of those. The Devil's fruitcake. The Devil's Food Cake is the one that has the rabbit turds on

that one sometimes. Yeah,

very good. Yeah. So anyways, so I've told the story before I won't go too deep into it. But again with going out with my wife our very first date was on Valentine's day it was snowing. I went to a store 24 which is like a wall was rip off. And I bought a variety pack the intimates doughnut variety pack. And at 3am Jen and I on our first date hung out in the snow and ate the entire freaking Variety Pack. And she ate her full four and I my full four full four. So without antigens, and without Michael Stipe no family. It's like it's like four different

family.

I guess I would have I guess I could have a different family. I'm assuming I would not have a family at all. And then I'd be wondering the wandering the weatherman loop in my in my guy. I don't think so. I don't know. You didn't know me back then. That you could have found

somebody later in life.

I would not have. Okay, yeah. It was then or never. That was all there was. All right. So by the way, Mr. Garcia likes chocolate flavored cereals. I don't like chocolate flavors. Here's John. You are trying to make a chocolate flavored cereal by mashing and intimates donut into your crunch berries or what? No,

no into his mouth. Yeah.

The crunch berries were like the appetizer than the dump. Yeah. All right. It was dessert. Yeah,

yeah. Okay. Okay. Do you know So? So? I'm gonna ask jokes. I've done this work. Joe, are you You like cereal? Right? Because you're a person. I like cereal. Alright, are you more of a fruity pebbles or more of a Cocoa Pebbles? If you if those are the only two options? I don't really like either. They're too Sandy fruity pebbles or Cocoa Pebbles?

I don't know if I've ever had either of those was Yeah, I know. i We grew up in a non sugared cereal house.

Just yeah, we never also know TV.

was like yeah, we had rabbit ears back then. So it was mostly like Doctor Who and

and you know what's unpleasant about Fruity Pebbles besides the poisonous kind of like fake fruit flavor which I enjoy? is the color of the milk with a fruity pebbles is just a horror show. It's a horror show. It's like it's like an aquarium you haven't clean?

I did like once the year with the two can the

reveal your nose? I saw some sick two cans at the zoo over the weekend. To Cancer cool, man. Do you know that they use their beaks as thermo regulators. They're huge and very lightweight, and they're full of blood vessels and so they can regulate their body temperature by pushing more or less blood out in their in their nose, which always knows. Jay Carter in 1974 wrote in via email Hey, Dave, what's the best remove for Manhattan? Probably the one you like. Right? I mean, by the best remove is that is a fresh remove. And one that you enjoy. I've tried. Oh my gosh, you met with CI is CI is is CS CI right? Yeah. Man studio and opera and opera fun story, and local bitters and Luxardo cherries. I like using rye whiskey. I've had some good ones, but I'm in search of the ultimate Manhattan figured I'd run it by you and your feedback would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. All right. J Carter, listen. First of all, like different from Moose or rat rat, radically different, right? I would stick with there. So I don't really think there is such a thing as an ultimate. And also the amount of Vermouth is gonna that you add to a Manhattan is going to depend on which vermouth and which rise so if you use like a really, really like Bri II kind of rough like, you know, 50% Rye like Rittenhouse, which is what I like to use, right. And you also want to use a really kind of like full big kind of like, you know, bomb of a vermouth like Arpana which I still love even though there was a kind of a anti-car panto backlash because all of us bartender people like loved it so much for so long, then you would shade back a little bit, you wouldn't do a full to one, you would pull back a little bit on the vermouth, whereas you know, if you're using like, you can make an excellent Manhattan with some of the like, kind of like lighter fruity or Vermouths like Martin Nelly or one of these things, but you could be those you can do it and so it's really what you like. And I think half of the fun of doing it is like just testing a bunch of different from booths are not that expensive. And even if you don't like it or Manhattan, there's plenty of uses for Vermouths. Other than that, like for instance like before dinner, why not just have like a little glass of Vermouth. I like having a little glass of Vermouth, John, do you like having a little glass? Do you start yet? Do you like a pre dinner? Like? No, just just Rosie.

No, I had I had a cocktail last week. That's not

what I'm saying. I'm saying like when you're in Italy, let's say yes. You have a little glass or something before? Yes. So what about you? You're you. Where are you with drinks? We haven't ever talked about this Loveman hands my hands

on Yeah, like very simple old style drinks.

would have hated our bar.

You know what I mean? On Saturday night?

I don't want you tell me.

Bacardi passion fruit with passion fruit period.

Wait, what is already passionate?

what it sounds like.

I mean, it's a run with fake passion for it. But then you added passion for it if you right yeah, you found a passion fruit puree that you enjoy. Yeah.

I don't know some Spanish brand, but

like you get into store. Yeah. When you say, do you mean actually Spanish or do you mean like it's in Spanish? Like? No, I think it's actually Spanish. Okay. So like from Europe. Interesting. All right. And it's the yellow one or the or the it's like yellow. Yellow. Yeah. And somehow the real passion fruit rides up over top of the poisonous. Yeah, yeah. Nice. Yeah. And they like it's a synergistic kind of, yeah, yeah. Real good. And you make it like, you mentioned pour it over

a rock cheeses. Well, I mean, then you get like the crunchy passionfruit. Oh, yes.

Okay, so I have a problem with gloopy drinks. I hate it. She knows this. She's just trying. She's not.

I love that you love it?

I like what I like. Alright. Nick, to answer that Manhattan question. So actually, John's gonna come off the docket bleeding right now. I liked it before when you would push the button real hard. And we all knew the question.

I'm trying to be real ginger with my typing here.

Yeah, I don't like hearing it.

Oh, this dasya hates hearing people tight. If you ever have a phone meeting with Anastasia and God help you if you do.

I'll ask why. Who's tap dancing in the back?

Yeah, of course. The stars. He is the queen of like, leaving the radio on in the back having friends playing violin in the back. All sorts of crazy stuff in the back and the stasis call. But God helped me to wash your hands or type something, then you're the bad person. Yeah, we give each other hell on the phone though. I yell at you about that. You yell at me. Like why can't you clean later?

Yes. Although I did it. Can you hear me when I'm going in the bathroom on the phone?

Oh, god. Look, can

you? God invented the mute button for a reason.

So you mute me? What? Oh, no,

that's not the way view works. That's called hanging up. All right. Nick Robertson wrote in via email. Hey, I have a curious question. The bar I work for uses Aragon to help preserve wine bottles for our glass pour menu. Remember, we did that first test at Del Posto years ago with the organ system with the fancy lines when Jeff Jeff came in. And so we were all sitting around he was pouring single ball. Yeah, it's kind of fun. Yeah. The borrower worked for us are going to help preserve wine bottles for our glass pour menu. Now this bar is closing to relocate. And with Aragon be useful at all to help preserve the integrity of hard alcohol slash liquor healers would do more harm than good. It's not going to do more harm than good. But it's going to do a whole lot of nothing right on any hard liquor. I wouldn't worry about it. The one exception would be things that are like below about 20%. So like your Vermouths most of your tomorrow's and stuff are going to be fine as is I would mainly worry about like your Vermouths. And yeah, sure, hit that core come in, hit him with the thing and they'll be a little better when you move them over. And it'll it'll it'll mean that you won't have to refrigerate them as much like, Oh, back to the thing on the vermouth question for a minute. I know it's been deleted already and it's over. However, do refrigerate your vermouth and do and do you know use it fresh. So like if you're not going to use a lot of Vermouth. Get the smaller bottles because you just need to use it fast. That's the main problem. When I was a kid, and no one used vermouth. I thought vermouth tasted like peanuts, but it was just like oxidized crappy vermouth that had been sitting around. So most vermouth is decent, if it's fresh, you know, it's, they're different. Some are better, some are worse. But you know, freshness is is the key thing there. You know what I do at home Anastasia? Yeah, I put the I pre mixed the vermouth and the in the whiskey array in 20 ounce soda bottles. And then I squeeze out all of the air cap it throw it in the freezer and then just mix it with ice water real quick at home that you can have instant no stirring, no nothing. It's good. But then the cocktails at Manhattan. I put the bitters into, but like the key thing is that in a 20 ounce soda bottle, you can squeeze out all the air so it never oxidizes. And then if you don't water it beforehand, it won't freeze in the freezer either. So you can just you just shake it a little bit because the vermouth will settle over time. Once it's with the liquor and then you can just pour it into a glass. And I think it's two to one Bucha of that booze mix to water. I think it's two to one. So like two ounces of that booze mix ounce of water. You know give it a quick stir and should be already at the right temperature ready to rock and roll. What

I'm supposed to have a barbecue on Saturday, what should I make?

What kind of people are they? Are they more passionfruit Bacardi people are more Manhattan people. Mix I think look at a barbecue. That's a lot of work to do at a barbecue honestly, I would get like a bunch of like light fun looking bottled beers

no and really about no no, no, no, no, I'm not talking about cocktails. I'm talking about grilling.

But how big is your grill again? We went through this last week it's like off

three by One Hello hotdogs what's a hot dog?

Connecticut made hot dogs that I think are the best really? Yeah.

Best what best Connecticut made hot dog

better than some bread better than Hebrew national better than soubrette is like saying nothing. Okay, so what's what's your favorite hotdog brand? I've worked commercially out there.

I forget then I forget the name of it but that one that we had I looked it up and I can buy it. The one that we had in Detroit was great. was great. I had one I bought some from Katz's the other day and I thought the skin was a little tough when I cooked it but the once you have it at Katz's it's really good. Read subreddits caseless right. subreddit not even its cases is the is the humble with a case or no? Yes. Alright, so that's half the way to great you know what I mean? Like Like,

all the good Connecticut hotdog places, all sort of humble netiquette has great hotdogs I know

you said this Sunday we'll do the the the Connecticut tour of hot dogs I have never had a Connecticut hot dog other than like at the Yankee Doodle, which was like a little lunch place at in New Haven but I've never done the Connecticut hot I want you describe to us all what the Connecticut hot dog is as opposed to other people's hot dogs.

I think for the most part it's pretty much the same. I don't know the Hummel has a really good snap and fries really well grills really well and done on the grill really well. It's just like the three hotdog places that I like how they do differently. But what I think like the one unique Connecticut hotdog topping is this kind of like pepper relish that was popularized at this place called Black Keys in Cheshire. And yeah, it's just a bunch of peppers that are ground out and then cooked down really hard in apple cider vinegar and then some other spices in it. But yeah, I

don't know when they're banana peppers. No, I think bell peppers. Green Green Belt.

It looks like confetti. I think it's all of the colors.

And can you buy this pepper relish? In Black? Yes, you can. Yes. Because it honestly tastes different from your standard sweet relish. Yes, yes. And different from like a panda ciaochao.

Yes.

Bring it bring it if you're coming. I'm trying to I'm trying to get some

stars like put up or shut up. Get some of that gets. Do you are you a relative and stars?

A little bit. Now a little bit on it. Yeah, a little bit.

A little bit. You know what I like? I like relish, but I really really really really really just like a boat ton of sauerkraut and a lot of mustard. Yeah, a lot of mustard. Hello. Has anyone figured out the problem of the bun getting soggy when you put in much much sauerkraut deep because you know it's not polite is to put your hands into the sauerkraut at the table and squeeze out the extra juice and then put dry sauerkraut on top it uses a slotted spoon, right? It's still to work. I can squeeze

it with a tiny sonogram. But with the tongs I

mean for the amount of sauerkraut that I like to put on a hot dog. Like I've never had it not soup out. Like when I do it by myself at home. I put it in a towel and I go Sheboygan and I squeeze the extra juice out and then I put it on the bun. But I don't like when the bone gets pasty. Does anyone like when the bone gets pasty? No. No. What are you guys feelings on the top split bun versus the sides split bun. Doesn't matter.

What tops? Would

you like a tassel? Is that a Connecticut thing?

I don't know. Yeah, like tops. What?

Do the sides split top split?

I honestly don't know the difference. And I'm assuming it's something maybe. Which is the split you'd usually get in a lobster roll?

That's a great question. Yeah, that's a fantastic question. So if they're buying like standard Martens is a side split like a standard American hot dog, but a lot of really good loss replaces we'll use the top split because they don't break open. I like to tops with them. Yeah, the good thing about a top split is the way they're cut. They don't hold as much unless you like push it open and push it down. But when you're lumping crap on top of it, it's got that like shelf above the dog or the meat where you can put stuff and they don't they don't ever break in half the way a size put does right John? Yep. Yeah, yep. They're harder to toast if you're if you're a diner operator. The old way to do the the sides Blitz is to fully open the sides but and put it on the griddle. And you can't really do that with a top split. But oh my god, they're the best lobster replace Believe it or not. The best lobster roll I've had in the past eight years is not at the beach. It's at a lake called Cedar Lake in Chester, Connecticut. I don't know where this guy he's a teacher during the year. And in the summers. All he does is make lobster rolls at this shack and it's just like a bunch of lobster with lobster butter that he makes from this stuff. And he just sits there paints the butter on the top splits and then tosses like the you know he has the the claw meat separate from the tail meat. He takes the two pieces, tosses them in a lobster butter puts them on the roll done. So good

cedar lakes next check. Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, I don't know whether it's as good as it was. I haven't been there a year and a half. If but, man we used to go there all the time, it's not even that expensive. And he would just like load the load the lobster on the thing. Because for me, I'm all about just lobster and butter on my on my on my lobster roll, you guys. Yeah. Yeah. Doesn't need gussying You don't need to gussy, that thing. You know. Anytime you've got C, it means you're ripping me off. It means you're not giving me lobster. You could have given me lobster instead of gussying. Yeah. Some things just don't need to be messed with. All right. Okay, interesting. One in, I think. I don't know. David S. Rosenfield, wrote in who used to work at Blanca back in the day. I remember when I remember. Yeah, Blanca. Have you ever either. I went for friends and family. And then it was impossible. I

wasn't invited. And then it was impossible. That was back when like, I went out women. And like, it was like, Oh, David does radio show. And then now like, everyone will have to be like, Oh, we have to invite Anastasia because female power went Hispanic power and all that stuff. What? Really? Yeah.

Good. So anyway, so the that was named after his mom number. So like that was Carlos. Mom was from Panama. And then Roberta's who's whose mom was Roberta's?

I don't know. I don't know. Anyway.

All right. So I'm reaching out because I recently came across a very bottle, a very old bottle of back to anastasius favorite Bacardi made. So for those of you that aren't familiar, like the Bacardi that we know isn't the original Bacardi. Bacardi is from Cuba. When Castro took over Cuba. He nationalized the Bacardi distilleries, and so then Bacardi, the product, the family, you know, they weren't part of that they moved elsewhere. And so the Bacardi is no longer to Cuba McCarty, okay. I recently ran across a very old bottle of Bacardi made in Cuba, that was buried. I mean, probably not literally buried, right? Probably not literally buried, buried in my late grandfather's wine cellar. It was either underfilled or lost a lot to evaporation. Weirdly, weirdly, the juice is a pinkish red color, any ideas what may have caused this? Alright, so and then, you know, they sent me a picture of that also, next to a picture of very old bowls. Bowls you never saw. Anyway, I don't know a lot about this. But my old partner at existing conditions, Greg bone from cocktail Kingdom is a collector of collector and drinker of vintage spirits and vintage cocktail books. So I sent him the picture. And he says to me, hi, that amount of Angel share loss in the bottle is about the most I would tolerate before I would consider it not potable. The color is a bit of a problem. It is probably Oro with that style of rum, which should be slightly darker, but might have that but that color might have come from also partially from Cork contamination. That bottle appears to be from about 1938. But I would need a clear photo to be sure that I said to him, I said, Well, Greg, thanks. What would happen if it had lost more? Was it just not enough alcohol to hold the flavor anymore? He goes, good question. And this is he didn't elaborate further he goes good question. Vintage spirits drinkers. Consider that a bot that a bottle that is lost more than 10% of its volume to be dangerous to drink. Why dangerous? I don't know. Maybe it's because it means that if it loses more than that it could be contaminated the other way? I don't know if that makes sense to you. sighs really? JOHNSON I can't go anything I thought anyway, that's what he says. And he drinks a lot of it. You guys. Also during the war, World War Two, I guess. Or maybe the I think

they mean when anyone says the words were really? Okay.

Even nowadays, yeah, I think so. Even though we've been in a war for the past 20 years. Like, all right. Also, during the war, there was a cork shortage and metal closers were used in that case, the color could come from a little bit of rust. Alright, so that's the interesting. That's the I thought it was interesting. Yeah, yeah, definitely. That That answered. Covenants matter for you, John. Yep. Hit the push. All right. From bricks percentage via Instagram. Do you have a recommended source for glycerin for use in drinks? Do you have any podcast videos or any published info on your use of it? I don't know about published. I mean, I talk about it a lot use vegetable glycerin. And it's a little bit unfortunate because some people when they say glycerin, they mean mono and diglycerides. So just a very quick version. So Anastasia, like Nastasia is playing a game that requires her to match numbers rather than listen to the radio. Yes, I am. For those of you that like are my age out there. I encourage you to use the term zero tasking. Everyone says that they multitask really the zero tax everyone does anything, everything, everything

behind everything. Why are you making bases if

you're like one of the kings of multitask,

I don't love that zero task. If I either do one thing well or Many things poorly.

Got it from you're doing many things poorly.

Or not, or not at all. Not at all. Oh, no, we wouldn't be like, like, I have a bunch of things I need to do. But really, I only do one thing. This is why like when people come to me and they're like, when he like, why haven't you worked on my problems? Like when I work on your problem, I will work on your problem. 100% But I'm not going to work on it even 0% You're going to lose the game. Just stop playing. It's just spelling

or literally just spelling, then you're gonna you're gonna lose, you could lose both celibate. So I told you you would lose. I don't know. I

started like celery. Yell a bit

LEBATCELEI Oh, I okay

that's great. It's good stuff. It's good press impressive start to the new studio given it the new go trying to be more engaged in the radio program. I'm feeling it. How do you spell celibate? I heard they got a new computer. Beautiful.

celibate and a S

and A Yes. All right. So vegetable glycerin, glycerin, aka glycerol is the backbone of a triglyceride. So mono and diglycerides. So there's a fatty acid, three fatty acids on a glycerol molecule that's a that's a fat molecule, right. So if you take one of those off, and it's no longer triglyceride, it's a diglycerides. You take two of those off those it's a mono glyceride those things are emulsifiers glycerol or glycerin as we call it by itself is just a you can it's a slightly sweet kind of adds body and mouthfeel and thickness and you can add it don't add too too much. And just get its vet get vegetable glycerin right, that's what you get. There are various differences among the ones we once did a side by side tasting of the ones that you could get by the gallon on Amazon, but just get one of those ones by the gallon you're going to use it in such small percentages that the very minor taste difference you haven't seen them shouldn't make that much of a difference. And you're using like literally like a couple of grams per liter anytime your sugar drops below about 8% or in a soda anytime your sugar drops below 10% Anytime your alcohol level drops below, drops below about 11% in a carbonated drink or even a non carbonated drink consider adding a little bit of glycerin and it'll body it up. So it's really good for low alcohol drinks and for low sugar sodas. That was a good enough answer, John.

Oh, delete, delete.

From misplaced enthusiasm via Instagram. I recently made the David Kinch pastrami. I haven't seen David Kinch in a long time. I'm just trying to imagine

So was your your famous David can phrase I can't remember. But I can't. Like I can't remember.

So like David can't. He has three Michelin stars. Right? So he finally got three stars. I don't know if he still has but he had three Michelin stars. But that the hilarious thing about kimchi is is that he always looks kind of sad, right? Like, you're like, hey, they just gave you three Michelin stars. Okay. You know what I mean? Like, he just looks. He looks like he just it looks like that wave just hit him real hard. Like broke his board in half. And he hit the ground. He came up and he's fine. He's fine. But it's like, you know, anyway. So I didn't know. I don't know whether it was about cash. But we were talking about people chasing stars. He got his three stars. And the phrase was Wake up and smell the Reds epi has no meaning has no meaning. John, is that have any meaning? No. But like, it was like it was a Will you ever

tell that story of what what? What happened in the meeting with our old investor?

No, really? No, no, no, I won't tell that story. But ever on a yell ever. I listen. I won't tell the story. But I will say this, like when you are dealing with someone who is partially reasonable, right, then you should not put them into the part of them. That is unreasonable. Right? So we're in a negotiation. And I thought I was being reasonable. And then someone accused us of not taking care of someone who was VIP basically doing bad customer service, and then started calling us that we weren't paying attention to what we're doing. And the Stasi and I had literally spent every waking moment trying to make sure that everyone had gotten their fulfillments on this series calls and had personally mailed the one that we were being accused of not mailing personally. I lost it. Is that not what you're talking about? I'm talking about oh, I'll leave that one. Yeah, can't talk about that.

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but people would have to pay like, like $100 a month on Patreon to hear this story. Yes to good. Yeah, we're

gonna do like, we're gonna do like the Patreon thing where you guys like those of you that sign up, hey, by the way, this is a good idea is a good idea stand by it as they say, and I think you should leave. Here's what we're going to do people like, we're going to announce if you're hearing this you already know about it, probably we're going to announce a Patreon thing where you're going to pay us a certain amount of money per month, we're going to give you like the call in number here, you're going to have an extension that allows you to call in during the show for the Patreon users. Also, you'll get the show live and early. And then we're going to post the show for people who you know, because you know, we're not about trying to withhold forever, right? We're going to post on Friday, I think right says yeah, yeah. So like, if you want it between Tuesday and Friday, and you want to call in and get special bonuses, you'll pay the $5 month, whatever it is, but here's what since you're hearing this, why don't you guys tell us what you want out of a Patreon and then we can add those things. Like a jump rope. Nobody wants to jump rope. Everybody hates jumping rope. Okay, what's worse running or jumping rope? Jumping rope? Yeah, yeah. Joe, what do you hate more running or jumping rope? Jumping rope? Yeah, John.